mc92 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I don't think the tories stand to lose anything from a new general election. Wet-fish Corbyn can't compete against Boris and electing him legitimately gets rid of the resentment from voters that comes with an unelected leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I don't think the tories stand to lose anything from a new general election. Wet-fish Corbyn can't compete against Boris and electing him legitimately gets rid of the resentment from voters that comes with an unelected leader. Have you seen how disgustingly the remain lot have behaved even after a democratic vote?! An election won't change a thing about their resentment. They're clearly anti democratic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b568/puckeru572/A02271B6-BD9D-49ED-8152-1ED87D7907DA_zpsajj4pmab.jpg Time for a stronger independent Great Britain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I work with a few Scottish lads overseas they don't want an independent Scotland and they wanted out of the European union they don't belive in the William Wallace theory and don't believe Scotland has the cash flow for it This is the issue the SNP will face. even of there are no obstacles to continuing EU membership, or starting a new membership, they will have to implement mass austerity to be allowed into the EU. They have a budget deficit of something to the tune of £14b, plus they will have another £1.5b in EU membership fees. Foe a country of circa 5m. That is going to be tough, especially with a collapsing oil industry. But I firmly believe they should have another referendum, and it should be before our negotiations with the EU starts. It isn't fair to have Scotland involved in the negotiations if they may leave anyway. And stay or leave, another referendum will finally put this question to bed for generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 It makes me laugh the hypocrisy of this whole situation. All the socialist liberals who constantly drone on about democracy are the very people who now won't accept a democratic vote. The people of the UK have spoken. Live with it. If you don't like it you're more than welcome to move abroad to a European country while you can. For me this situation has shown how much contempt the EU has for its members and any notion that it is a democracy has long since vanished. Case in point is talk from the EU themselves of how they need to set an example with the UK on our conditions of leaving. Should they not accept the democratic decision of the UK and engage in an adult and professional process. No instead they are angry and want revenge because we simply did not conceded to their will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 ^ Agreed, the 'most tolerant' and democratic members of our society have shown their true colours.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 It makes me laugh the hypocrisy of this whole situation. All the socialist liberals who constantly drone on about democracy are the very people who now won't accept a democratic vote. The people of the UK have spoken. Live with it. If you don't like it you're more than welcome to move abroad to a European country while you can. For me this situation has shown how much contempt the EU has for its members and any notion that it is a democracy has long since vanished. Case in point is talk from the EU themselves of how they need to set an example with the UK on our conditions of leaving. Should they not accept the democratic decision of the UK and engage in an adult and professional process. No instead they are angry and want revenge because we simply did not conceded to their will. Very good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I find it hilarious that all the people that like Brussels and the EU won't say anything about what Brussels are seeking to do. They already have their lawyers looking into article 50 of the Lisbon treaty to find a way around it so they can speed up our process. How democratic is that. Well done Brussels. Proving the leave voters right all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 What I find so astounding about what is happening at the moment is just how many people there are who don't cherish democracy. To be fair, anyone who voted to remain in the EU can't really have too much of an interest in democracy, but the sheer number of people just refusing to accept a democratic vote beggars belief. They need to start teaching politics in schools again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 What I find so astounding about what is happening at the moment is just how many people there are who don't cherish democracy. To be fair, anyone who voted to remain in the EU can't really have too much of an interest in democracy, but the sheer number of people just refusing to accept a democratic vote beggars belief. They need to start teaching politics in schools again. It's because they think the EU is all lovey dovey and goodie goodie I.e they are social justice warriors who didn't get enough love from their parents (the day care generation) and make stupid claims that were together in union etc etc. Forgetting all the rest of the very Important details like who runs the show and who is benefitting from it. Have you seen the protest photos. All Anarchists thinking they are anti establishment by supporting the EU! These people are actually insane. I like to think I'm on the side of the people and that's why I voted leave. This isn't a one stage process, it's leave the undemocratic EU and then focus on our own democratic short comings. It's clear the people don't trust our government or big business. We need to ensure that big business and politics stays separate and we keep everyone accountable. For the first time since I was a kid I've felt proud to be British since voting leave. I actually feel like the people have been, well, British quite simply. All the total disgusting nazi like behaviour from some of the remain though has put a downer on things, they couldn't accept democracy, they threw a lot of hate and aggression at the older generation and leavers. Honestly hideous behaviour. Everyone has the right to vote. I for one am glad our older generation could vote, they have as much right as anyone else. Anyway rant over. Just so you all know that petition is being signed by non UK nationals so it should be void in theory. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 LOL!new motto of the we didn't win brigade, Democracy rules.......but only when it suits us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Another thing is some of the younger voters saying stuff like "our future has been stolen". It's true, over 80% of the 18-25 age group who voted, voted remain. However, only 25% of those legible to vote in that age group did. So overwhelmingly, young people didn't care whether we were in or out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Another thing is some of the younger voters saying stuff like "our future has been stolen". . I find that statement very annoying - its as if they are more important and deserve some special privilege...... i'm in the under 40 category - have another 30 years+ to work with a kid and loads of responsibilities - how come people like us dont get a mention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 The younger generation seem to overlook the fact that the older generation knew life before the EU and they've spent a good chunk of their life in the EU. They have experienced both the good and the bad of EU membership, some of them would have voted for EU membership initially and may have changed their opinion based on their life experience of the EU. You cant ignore them on the basis that they're old and will retire/die soon. They're more patriotic than most of the younger generations. I've seen some ignorant comments from remainers saying the likes of "congrats old people, you've just ruined your pension", you know what, i think the older generation would do that happily if they believed it would be better in the longterm for their families - their generation made great sacrifices for this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Noticed younger generation stating it has ruined their future, is anyone able to help elaborate what they mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Noticed younger generation stating it has ruined their future, is anyone able to help elaborate what they mean? /QUOTE] I think it goes something like this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Noticed younger generation stating it has ruined their future, is anyone able to help elaborate what they mean? /QUOTE] They're idiots and think that the EU is the only way they can visit those countries with the EU and yes I've genuinely heard that stupid argument repeatedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Noticed younger generation stating it has ruined their future, is anyone able to help elaborate what they mean? /QUOTE] I'd guess because they want the ability to live or work wherever they want, when they want. Of course, they don't mind that millions of others will have to put up with the lack of democracy at EU level, and suffer the effects of a saturated unskilled labour market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I'd guess because they want the ability to live or work wherever they want, when they want. Of course, they don't mind that millions of others will have to put up with the lack of democracy at EU level, and suffer the effects of a saturated unskilled labour market. Don't forget youth unemployment within the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Noticed younger generation stating it has ruined their future, is anyone able to help elaborate what they mean? /QUOTE] If you listened to the younger generation in our house they are of the belief that now we're leaving the EU that Nandos will pull out of the UK and we can't play Euromillions anymore. That is why their future is ruined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 On friday on radio 1 i heard a university student comment that she was gutted we voted to leave the EU because she wanted to visit friends in America! ...clearly not a geography student! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 On friday on radio 1 i heard a university student comment that she was gutted we voted to leave the EU because she wanted to visit friends in America! ...clearly not a geography student! /QUOTE] I definitely don't think we should let anyone younger vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabella Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Sturgeon now throwing her toys out of the pram, 'we'll block the leave process' . Unbelievably democratic isn't she. Maybe she needs to 'leave' as she's already become sick with power and overriding democracy, that's dictatorship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I definitely don't think we should let anyone younger vote No worse than a probable 90% of voters that rely on headlines, their favourite reality tv 'star' or social network posts to form an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 No worse than a probable 90% of voters that rely on headlines, their favourite reality tv 'star' or social network posts to form an opinion. Just to clarify I meant younger than the level we have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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