j_jza80 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 msmile just pm'd me, after reading the thread he now claims GRAMS is his brothers business.... I asked him to comment on the thread, seems strange that he is selling the same parts as his brothers ebay account. Why wouldn't he have just said that initially though, instead of stating it was nothing to do with him? I don't understand how someone can be so stupid to think they can get away with these lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 google is your best friend or worse enemy depending what kind of person you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I am the G.R.A.M.S man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Would love this thread to go away to be honest until I get my bumper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraleeturbo Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Would love this thread to go away to be honest until I get my bumper! Can you not ask for a refund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I haven't got it yet and I'm sure it'll be ok I suppose like everyone else I'm trying to look out for my interests and not jeopardise my transaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 No pics removed.... This guy obviously is not scared with solicitor talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Looks like their site is used using a crappy wordpress template. 10 points to anyone that can guess the correct info Brutforce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 While we sort this out we have stopped Msmile form posting in the for sale section. Not drawing any conclusions to this, but when this amount of feedback appears suddenly we thought it best to be on the safe side until MSmile can sort everybody out with their orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzy T Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Brendans supra has bespoke metal arches too iirc not fibre glass, that are hugely wide in comparison Yup, I'm currently chatting to him on FB about all this. He says there's just no point in chasing it to get it taken down as he'd have to go down the lawyers route and in the end nothing would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safcdixon Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Yup, I'm currently chatting to him on FB about all this. He says there's just no point in chasing it to get it taken down as he'd have to go down the lawyers route and in the end nothing would happen. Proper shame when you go all out like he has to be totally different, then have it put forward as copy/replica fibreglass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcAB10 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I wasn't going to get involved in this thread, as I'm sure it will only result in going one way. But have to agree, they shouldn't be using other peoples pictures as examples of their products when they clearly arnt! After a quick search one link that made me laugh was this- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Supra-MKIV-Ridox-RDX-Style-Low-Level-Lip-Spoiler-Aero-Ducktail-Bodykit-/301548778590 Picture one is a completely different lip to the others posted. Appears they don't even know what products they sell. Just to add, looks as though they may have removed your pictures Jamie, Add's and Marc's are still on there though. hhhmmm didn't know about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 hhhmmm didn't know about this. Sorry mate should have fired you a pm when I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Pictures of my cars are still on his ebay adverts dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcAB10 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Pictures of my cars are still on his ebay adverts dude. yeah, your old red one here - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Supra-Ab-Flug-Style-Headlight-Headlamp-Inserts-Body-Kit-/301418669060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 He is blatantly just taking pictures from the forum for his adverts. And none of us have his parts on the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Supes Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Another blagger gets his pants whipped down. Nice work guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Jamie is this not your old black beast? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Supra-WW-Wings-West-Style-Front-Bumper-Lip-for-Body-Kit-/301439373395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item462f2fd053 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 There is pictures of it all over his adverts Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Jamie is this not your old black beast? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Supra-WW-Wings-West-Style-Front-Bumper-Lip-for-Body-Kit-/301439373395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item462f2fd053 Cracks me up how they put their logo over the number plate aswell Pretty wrong to be fair, using others cars without permission is bad enough, but advertising the products like they are their own are pretty poor You can report the item through eBay and they will remove the listing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrar Jabbar Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Just realised Msmile bought one of my ducktail spoilers I have a Unit address in Upminster where it got delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Size Me Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Firstly can I start my post by saying that this type of behaviour is disgusting and abhorrent ! I completely agree with the sentiments of all affected BUT: As it stands after reading through the general forum usage section (and I am assuming that the affected individuals supra garages fall under the public album category) It doesn't state anywhere that images uploaded cannot be copied or reproduced without the authors prior permission. (In fairness it doesn't say you CAN either!) but in this type of situation naughty people need to be told NO! Could the powers that be add this kind of clause into the forum rules section at the point of membership acceptance? Obviously careful wording will be required with its inception and the consequences of breaking the rule. However: In this circumstance the ebay advert including the black beast picture has this text in the small print toward the bottom! Returns Policy This Item is Brand New Actual Images of item are shown above Item has been test fitted to ensure perfect fitment NO RETURNS are Accepted for this Listing Unless the Item Arrives Damaged Clear cut case of deception and make the appropriate requests to ebay to get all of the offending adverts pulled as they contravene ebay's own rules and regulations. http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/image-text.html In particular this section:Images and text policy Policy overview What are the guidelines? Reporting a listing Protecting your images using a watermark Additional information Why does eBay have this policy? Policy overview eBay members are not allowed to use images - including photos and other pictures - or text they didn't create themselves. Exceptions to this policy would be if they are authorised to do so by the owner, its agent or the law. As he is not the owner or created it himself he contravenes the rule very clearly and as a minimum will have the affected adverts pulled by ebay. I believe repeat offences results in an account ban Hope that helps! nail him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Well done to the Sherlocks on the forum!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 From a business point of view it seems a bit daft and short sighted to me. You would think that most of his potential customer base will be forum members, so why wind people up on here creating a terrible reputation for yourself and not even offer any mitigation. Surely his future sales are going to be well down on what they could be following this thread. He's clearly used pictures of cars that have never had his parts fitted and I don't get why he doesn't just sort it out quickly. Surely all he has to do is come on here , put his hands up, make his case and then remove the pictures as requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I've seen Jamesy's Do-luck photo's used to advertise the front bumper so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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