j_jza80 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 This car is definitely going to be made. Why do you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Those exhausts are like torpedo tubes - love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayfun.tugra Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Why do you say that? kevin hunter says himself - There isn't an iconic sports car in the brand. Its clear that they want a share of the performance sports car market. Toyota should be wanting a piece of the cake. The FT-1 may not be released as dramatic as the concept, but a similar machine will be on the production line soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest marticus Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Posted on the US site. looks good without the nose https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/q77/s720x720/1016148_616007535138718_1561109266_n.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Posted on the US site. looks good without the nose https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/q77/s720x720/1016148_616007535138718_1561109266_n.jpg I like both designs, but this one looks goooood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I prefer the nose - got a hint of F1 to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The yellow one looks very Corvette-like. Not convinced by either nose to be honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Some bad news lads http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-bmw-joint-sports-car-might-be-new-z4-but-not-supra-source-says.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 How is that bad new's exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest marticus Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) How is that bad new's exactly? I think because a lot of people were hoping that the partnership with BMW would mean the next supra would retain a turbocharged IL six. not sure why toyota feel the need for another lightwieght small engined FR coupe though Edited January 18, 2014 by marticus (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 How is that bad new's exactly? This is not the next supra. And if you read the link then it says "If these reports are accurate, it would appear to indicate that the Toyota version of the Z4 is not going to be called the Supra, and that a sports car worth of the Supra name may either be developed independently by Toyota or not at all." So if thats not bad news then what is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The autonews vid says they wanted the design to suggest the history of IL6 engines. Wouldn't it totally royally suck if it looked like that but had a 1.8 IL4 engine it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayfun.tugra Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Some bad news lads http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-bmw-joint-sports-car-might-be-new-z4-but-not-supra-source-says.html I think thats just press BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The autonews vid says they wanted the design to suggest the history of IL6 engines. Wouldn't it totally royally suck if it looked like that but had a 1.8 IL4 engine it in. Don't think they'd ever go for an I4. Most likely a V6 or a V8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Don't think they'd ever go for an I4. Most likely a V6 or a V8. The engine, too, will likely be a BMW unit of less than 2.0 liters So, inline 4 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 So, inline 4 then. They're totally different cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 This is not the next supra. And if you read the link then it says "If these reports are accurate, it would appear to indicate that the Toyota version of the Z4 is not going to be called the Supra, and that a sports car worth of the Supra name may either be developed independently by Toyota or not at all." So if thats not bad news then what is? Very one dimensional thinking there. This concept has nothing to do with the BMW/Toyota hybrid technology partnership so just because BMW say's it's not involved with the next Supra it doesn't mean there isn't going to be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 They're totally different cars. Well I hope so but that article is written so it sounds like this concept is actually the new Z4, and Toyota will sell a rebadged version of it similar to the BRZ-GT86 deal. Then there may or may not be a new Supra in the future but it's nothing to do with these images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I may be reading this totally different, but I seem to be seeing it a little different. The article is a smoke screen play on words. The Z4 that Toyota & BMW are working on, which will have a BMW variant and a Toyota variant won't be the Supra...... good, that's what I want to hear. The FT-1 is what we think is going to be the new Supra, not what BMW are working on. The article barely mentions the FT-1 or the Toyota plans with the concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I may be reading this totally different, but I seem to be seeing it a little different. The article is a smoke screen play on words. The Z4 that Toyota & BMW are working on, which will have a BMW variant and a Toyota variant won't be the Supra...... good, that's what I want to hear. The FT-1 is what we think is going to be the new Supra, not what BMW are working on. The article barely mentions the FT-1 or the Toyota plans with the concept. This. The picture of the FT-1 is a bit misleading if you read the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 This. The picture of the FT-1 is a bit misleading if you read the article. Correct, Ft-1 Design concept is totally irrelevent to the Z4 story. Bmw/Toyota partnership involving the Toyota Hybrid System II is over 3 years old now, and without doubt they will release a vehicle but as said countless times in the press and media, and by toyota themselves, this will not be a replacement for the Supra. Dezi Nagaya said in an interview regarding the GT-86 that any new true toyota sports would be powered by a gasoline engine and not a hybrid when he talked about the 3 future vehicles - the small sports car, the medium (gt-86) and the larger. On another interesting note, back in 2007 there were 2 concepts commissioned by toyota from Toyota's Europe Design Development ED2 and Calty Design (FT-HS) - Toyota eventially took its styling cues from Calty for the the ft/gt-86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It states in the very first paragraph that BMW have nothing to do with the FT-1 concept. That's all I need to hear. Toyotas version of the Z4 will most likely be a Celica-esque replacement going by the engine size and chassis size of a Z4. However, I always saw the GT86 as the Celica replacement, so I could be miles off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It states in the very first paragraph that BMW have nothing to do with the FT-1 concept. That's all I need to hear. Toyotas version of the Z4 will most likely be a Celica-esque replacement going by the engine size and chassis size of a Z4. However, I always saw the GT86 as the Celica replacement, so I could be miles off. Miles..... it was a "rebirth" of the AE86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Miles..... it was a "rebirth" of the AE86 I know that, but the celica is no longer made, so I just viewed it as it's "replacement". The '86 is a mid sized coupe, like the celica, and with Mr T's 3 new sports cars (small, mid-sized, large) I can't see how a Z4 platform would cover "small", unless they are going to bring out a nice little 2 seater roadster. Edited January 19, 2014 by listy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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