KamaSupra Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Or is he? Or is she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 or is she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 They do say any publicity is good publicity.......not sure I agree with them in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Considering our forum and the quality of the members cars on here I completely agree with your advice. Unless its a sub 3yr old car and I wanted the manufacturers / extended warranty personally I wouldn't bother with a dealer. I've bought cars from Paul Whiffin and Jurgen, and have had nothing but perfect service. I think as a forum we should support our traders, not advise people to buy privately on principle. I would always advise someone looking for a TT Supra to go to Jurgen and get a fresh import. Many Supras in the UK have seen too many winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamaSupra Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Says he / she is currently looking at "Supra Classifieds", maybe he'll drop by here soon. I'll go put the kettle on for when he arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 He will now, I've just PM'd him a link to this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) I've bought cars from Paul Whiffin and Jurgen, and have had nothing but perfect service. I think as a forum we should support our traders, not advise people to buy privately on principle. I would always advise someone looking for a TT Supra to go to Jurgen and get a fresh import. Many Supras in the UK have seen too many winters. I would always prefer to buy from a fellow owner (FIRST) so that I can personally assess whether the car has been looked after well, Has UK history (big plus point if a car has been serviced by LeeP as an example for a number of years) as supposed to Japanese history which personally I wouldn't trust regardless of what anyone says. A few months back we bought a car for my wife - visited the private buyers house, met his family and didn't even bother negotiating on price. car is as good as new and a good 4K cheaper than the dealer. imi Edited September 30, 2012 by imi (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I would always prefer to buy from a fellow owner (FIRST) so that I can personally assess whether the car has been looked after well, Has UK history as supposed to Japanese history which personally I wouldn't trust regardless of what anyone says. A few months back we bought a car for my wife - visited the private buyers house, met his family and didn't even bother negotiating on price. car is as good as new and a good 4K cheaper than the dealer. imi I agree with you about Japanese service history, but I'd also say that UK service history doesn't really mean that much with these cars. I'd always buy a Supra on its condition alone, thankfully these cars make it very obvious when something is wrong, mechanically or otherwise. It's always nice to have a folder of old paperwork though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest version30 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Had a dig around and theres nothing on paper officially to connect paul brown cars ltd (which had a registered office and trading premises in london and is now dissolved)to bargain cars direct / boyz toyz etc. However on a director level paul brown does exist and oddly enough have a look at the place of registry address ... http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/915490344 all public info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Sure some on the forum would like to bump into him too. Just because he says he is "Paul from Paul Brown Cars" doesnt mean he IS "paul". Anyone can say their name is **** on a forum. I could tell everyone my name is Bob and no one would know different (except those who personally know me). Thanks for the post Bob. I have been going through their ads. If you had a reputable business with a showroom and a plot for 80+ cars, you would show it in your adverts. All the pics are taken out on the street just in the same place that the Trade Cars adverts used to be. Front number plate in black, rear one white with the same font. I imagine if i had the time to delve deep enough into this there would be loads of info that links them. Just get them banned FFS..!! H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Hopefully JB will strike with the ban hammer. A quick Google search reveals a picture of it being used by LBM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) If he has a link via PM and has nothing to hide, then surely he would be defending himself on this thread? I know I would be. Edited September 30, 2012 by listy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Yea but he's been found out! Someone bought from Paul brown and bank statement said bargain cars.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I know My point was, if there was a legitimate reason behind it ie: a partnership or something, then surely he would defend himself. The fact that he doesnt, just makes him seem guilty regardless. As no one can actually PROVE they have done wrong, I'm not accusing them, though I have asked questions about the legitimacy of the companies. Unfortunately, a reciept from one and a bank statement saying another, could just be a partnership thing that could be above board. I very much doubt it, but again this thread is one where people who have not had direct contact with any of the companies are jumping on board. I got my first supra from Platinum Autos in High Wycombe, and the person there sounded very much like the people at PB, BCD and BT. I find it odd that all companies under question all have the same staff descriptions. Also, going by the Company Checker I found online http://www.companysearchesmadesimple.com all the companies are registered to residential addresses, and not business locations. Seems very fishy. Ofcourse, all the evidence points towards dodgy dealing, but so far, there is no hard proof. As I said, unless someone can PROVE that the companies are all registered under the one name, then there is nothing anyone can do, and a bank statement and reciept for a purchase with two companies names on them, is easily pushed to one side by the defending party, by claiming a partnership. Then people with have to prove that that partnership does not exist, which would be even harder. And no, I'm not a mole, people on here know me personally, and after I bought a supra from PA, and later found the RC gasket was fubared, I wouldnt dream of defending them. All I'm saying is we need SOLID PROOF of one person trading under multiple companies, and also proof of the state of vehicles bought from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 And no, I'm not a mole, people on here know me personally, and after I bought a supra from PA, and later found the RC gasket was fubared, I wouldnt dream of defending them. All I'm saying is we need SOLID PROOF of one person trading under multiple companies, and also proof of the state of vehicles bought from them. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like one - good chance that it is a duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like one - good chance that it is a duck Is that an accusation? I sincerely hope not. I'm an active member who has a lot of input all over the forum. Platinum Autos screwed me over on a Supra. Why would I defend a company suspected to be part of a dodgy enterprise? Plus, it would be a bit hard as I live in South Wales, attend the meets, travel to Devon where family is and see the devon owners, and am also in the Army. Maybe an apology is in order here. Edited September 30, 2012 by listy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Oh and a bit more dodgy info. Location of Platinum Autos straight from their web site. https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=HP13+6NN&hl=en&ll=51.629685,-0.74565&spn=0.000399,0.001316&hnear=High+Wycombe+HP13+6NN,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=20 High Wycombe Train Station? Funny place to have a car dealership! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Oh and a bit more dodgy info. Location of Platinum Autos straight from their web site. https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=HP13+6NN&hl=en&ll=51.629685,-0.74565&spn=0.000399,0.001316&hnear=High+Wycombe+HP13+6NN,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=20 High Wycombe Train Station? Funny place to have a car dealership! Maybe they sell trains too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Paul Brown Cars? Not where the site says it is either! https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=hp123rq&hl=en&ll=51.625494,-0.772594&spn=0.001608,0.005262&sll=52.405331,-4.159948&sspn=3.210727,10.777588&t=h&hnear=High+Wycombe+HP12+3RQ,+United+Kingdom&z=18 Been on street view "walking" around. The only place that looks like it could be a Jap Car dealership says "polosrus" on the sign, with a R33, 300ZX, scoobies outside. On the map, labelled as Single Market Business Services. Definitely no where signed as PBC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 BT has no location on their site. Odd for a dealership. Viewing by appointment only. Fill in a form on the site, and they will contact you. Strange. BCD/TC has no web site. Also odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay200bhp Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 it baffles me fellas how paul brown ,ali, whoever this fool is chooses who buys a shonky supra from him and operates a no "nob" policy haha how does a nob decide if another can have a supra wierd... my dealings with him just get him off here and pistonheads ... bunch of yee haas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike101 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 This sums up the tactics employed by PBC http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=407576 yepp, cars not as described. repost adverts to well presented cars that they do not have for sale... Will provide some bullsh*t story that they sold earlier that day and then end up readvertising the same advert later that week. The same advert has been running since october 2011 til now for a white evo 5..... the exact one I enquired about and went out of my way to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Hopefully JB will strike with the ban hammer. A quick Google search reveals a picture of it being used by LBM http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/j_s14a/64a7c52a678d57cb7f0c62492782c243.jpg You are mistaken. I only use the Bananahammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Blimey, I've run out of popcorn and the parsnip's dissapeared, having trouble sitting down now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 You are mistaken. I only use the Bananahammer. Get your finger out Rob..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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