Brazil Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 On brand new engines you need to run them in with a couple psi of boost,, otherwise the pistons rings wont seat properly and you wont hsve an engine that last otherwise,,, cause as soon as you apply boost to the engine then, thea wear on the rings are gonna be significantly different, Which will result in a faster wearing engine Say 8 psi orso give or take. That way the engine gets run in with boost Ryan from Syvecs road map tuned at 1.2 bar than after 1k miles brought it down to 1 bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_Tidy_1 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) For a brand new engine I would say that's a bit high, would stick to highest say 10 to 14 psi run it in on that and then bump it up,, load it up nicely everytime your drive for 1000 to 1500 km and bam bumo up to as high as you Want Edited February 4, 2015 by Tyson swearing (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_Tidy_1 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 But it sounds like you got an underlying issue on the oilig sidr of things being that low, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Ok, after removing the engine my mechanic disassembled the oil sump and found a lot of broken metal from a loose bolt, I am waiting photos to confirm exactly what it is but he said. He also said he believes the turbo is also seizing because of the lack of oil it was running. He also asked if my engine has warranty because it looks like a complete overhall to put this right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Ok, after removing the engine my mechanic disassembled the oil sump and found a lot of broken metal from a loose bolt, I am waiting photos to confirm exactly what it is but he said. He also said he believes the turbo is also seizing because of the lack of oil it was running. He also asked if my engine has warranty because it looks like a complete overhall to put this right. Dam! I hope things work out for you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 I miss understood what is loose and broken in the bottom end 'oil sump' here's photos of what was found loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 what you guys is the cause for this to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 That's a thrust bearing.... oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 They`re thrust washers off the crank, god knows how they have come out, run dry possibly? Edit, thats going to be a full stripdown to see what else is damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Again, you need to speak to Chris Wilson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Have you been starting the engine with the clutch down? Or was the clutch mal-adjusted perhaps? What clutch are you running? Also... That's a rebuild job I'm afraid!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry_10 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 So gutted for you mate what a nightmare this car has been Atleast you can say you have put everything into and didn't give up. But I think this is going to be it for you now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Did you use an old one or was it new? Man I feel for you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 What clutch you running As James says, looks like it's been started with the clutch down and maybe not enough free play in the top of the peddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 I have a Gilken triple plate carbon clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I have a Gilken triple plate carbon clutch. Mmm shouldnt be that bad then, maybe the lack of oil pressure has caused some issues. You should never start a supra with the clutch down though so find out if that's been happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I have a Gilken triple plate carbon clutch. If I remember right that has a reverse action? I tried 'Pulley' on heres clutch, (same as yours) and it was horrendously heavy! Do you start the car with the clutch down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Mmm shouldnt be that bad then, maybe the lack of oil pressure has caused some issues. You should never start a supra with the clutch down though so find out if that's been happening. Ironically, some of theUS spec ones can't be started without holding the clutch down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Ironically, some of theUS spec ones can't be started without holding the clutch down Yeah I know, one of the first mods they do when upgrading the clutch is bypass the clutch switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Mmm shouldnt be that bad then, maybe the lack of oil pressure has caused some issues. You should never start a supra with the clutch down though so find out if that's been happening. Sorry to hijack here, but what are the dangers associated with starting with the clutch down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Sorry to hijack here, but what are the dangers associated with starting with the clutch down? Startup is when most wear occurs on an engine. There is little to no oil pressure upon first cranking, so inadequate lubrication for a brief moment. Pushing the clutch down on a car will 'thrust' the crankshaft, putting pressure on the thrust washers. Hence if you start a car with the clutch down repeatedly, the washers will wear at a higher rate. Eventually this will lead to crank walk, when the washers drop out and the crank is allowed more than the permitted movement back and forth. Edited January 30, 2015 by TheTurtleshead (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Auto ftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Since my engine only made 1000 miles from rebuild would you say engine builder should be responsible and offer to rebuild engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Auto ftw This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Since my engine only made 1000 miles from rebuild would you say engine builder should be responsible and offer to rebuild engine? It's more complicated than that. The reason for this fault needs to be identified. If it is an issue with the build, then yes, the engine builder should fix it. If it is an issue with hoe it has been installed, started, run in Etc, then the engine builder has no responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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