Guest Nicholas Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 if you drive a 20k+ car which most of us do why the hell would you buy a cheap manifold? it's beyond me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Christ, thats still not very good, though the WG ports are much larger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 2) HKS 50mm gates come with 0.8/9bar springs by default... The HKS wastegates are sold with different springs rates http://www.hks-power.co.jp/products/turbo/support/waste/waste.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 if you drive a 20k+ car which most of us do why the hell would you buy a cheap manifold? it's beyond me I took a risk and went with the XS kit as a base. The manifold is fine, the welding is good, the porting smooth and the vent to the wastegate suitable. It represented a £1.5k saving over premier kits and so far has proved perfectly capable. It's 3k miles in so far and there is no sign of a problem. Boost builds solidly to 1.4 bar and is rock solid in any gear. It's not proving a problem for me or many others using this manifold. Clearly Gaz has a duff one so that needs looking into by the suppliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicholas Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I took a risk and went with the XS kit as a base. The manifold is fine, the welding is good, the porting smooth and the vent to the wastegate suitable. It represented a £1.5k saving over premier kits and so far has proved perfectly capable. It's 3k miles in so far and there is no sign of a problem. Boost builds solidly to 1.4 bar and is rock solid in any gear. It's not proving a problem for me or many others using this manifold. Clearly Gaz has a duff one so that needs looking into by the suppliers. Perhaps you're one of the lucky ones, I'd never put such a cheap component on my car but hey everyone’s different. I hope it continues to work well for you and proves to be reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I've no shots of the inside of my HKS manifold, but I do remember the welding/finish on the inside, was just as neat as it was on the outside. Yes they are a few times the price of the XS power manifold, but there is a huge difference in the quality, design and fabrication. http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1140/cimg0007xy8.jpg http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8089/cimg0008oy2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicholas Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I love HKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Perhaps you're one of the lucky ones, I'd never put such a cheap component on my car but hey everyone’s different. I hope it continues to work well for you and proves to be reliable. If it fails you lot will be the first to know, beleive me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I have a BL manifold, its not on the car....yet Pics be of any use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I have a BL manifold, its not on the car....yet Pics be of any use? Yes bung them up for reference Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Ill get on it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Ill get on it tomorrow. Lazy b*gger it's only 3.30am there for gawds sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Lazy b*gger it's only 3.30am there for gawds sake I should be sleeping!! Manifold needs to come off so i can attempt heat wrap it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Here is the Pic Dan was talking about in is post (thanks for the email). Must admit this does look a little different to mine. would be nice to know wtf happened to the oil pipe next to it:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 if you drive a 20k+ car which most of us do why the hell would you buy a cheap manifold? it's beyond me me too i wish i know more about best, worse, makes:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 me too i wish i know more about best, worse, makes:( Cost is usually a good indication of quality, in general I still believe you get what you pay for. For example XS Power Manifold and wastegate = £250 http://www.xs-power.co.uk/shop/images/2jzgte46128.jpg HKS Manifold and wastegate = approximately £1100 http://www.hks-power.co.jp/products/turbo/support/set/img/image_01.jpg When you compare the fabrication, materials used, design, R&D, quality control, etc. you can see why one is over 4 times the price of the other. The end result? One is fit for purpose, the other it seems is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Or, as used by Ryan Woon in his 8 sec Supra. http://members.cox.net/virtualworksracing/products.htm Ceramic coating too. To contain the heat. ( Crikey that link works ) £850 approx at MVP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Or, as used by Ryan Woon in his 8 sec Supra. http://members.cox.net/virtualworksracing/products.htm Ceramic coating too. To contain the heat. ( Crikey that link works ) £850 approx at MVP Hmmm, that is lovely I'm sure I could get a few quid for my old HKS manifold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 £850 approx at MVP Similar price to the HKS manifold on it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 £850 approx at MVP How'd you get that price mate ? The coated one is $1,980, which at today's rate is about £1k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 what would have caused this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 How'd you get that price mate ? The coated one is $1,980, which at today's rate is about £1k. MVP sale mate $1750 using $2 to a quid. Approx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 what would have caused this [ATTACH]59451[/ATTACH] Is it possible the gasket let go, and hot gasses were allowed to escape out the side of the joint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Ouch! Do you have a screamer pipe pointed directly at the hose or is the hose made of rubber?!?!?!? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 what would have caused this [ATTACH]59451[/ATTACH] Serious looking failure mate. Looks like a clip was done up in the wrong place ie no pipe under the hose. Other than that, dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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