mwilkinson Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I simply don't believe the essence of the FT1 concept can be mirrored in the car we have seen driving around. I also don't think the Z5 (as based on its predecessors) provides a platform suitable from what I would expect the next Supra to be based. The Z series BMWs have been OK, but never earth shattering in the BMW performance lineup, which doesn't encourage me about how this model of car as a basis for the Supra will play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolizma Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I am a bit surprised that articles talk about the supra sharing platforms with the Z5. Is this confirmed? I thought they were going to work with BMW on a different project. I was convinced that the new supra will share platforms with the LC500. Let's wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 This has been discussed on Autocar quite a bit recently too. I think the design and engine choices will be a long way from what a lot of us hoped for when the original concept images appeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshboy Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I am a bit surprised that articles talk about the supra sharing platforms with the Z5. Is this confirmed? I thought they were going to work with BMW on a different project. I was convinced that the new supra will share platforms with the LC500. Let's wait and see. This is the impression I was under, based on an article I read a while back. Can't for the life of me remember where though. I thought that the BMW/Toyota joint venture was for a Z5 and a new addition to the Toyota lineup. Then the Ft-1 was showcased, seeming as though it would be a standalone model. Could be the case and this version of Toyota's offering is just taking style tips from the FT-1, to then be continued in their new range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolizma Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 This is the impression I was under, based on an article I read a while back. Can't for the life of me remember where though. I thought that the BMW/Toyota joint venture was for a Z5 and a new addition to the Toyota lineup. Then the Ft-1 was showcased, seeming as though it would be a standalone model. Could be the case and this version of Toyota's offering is just taking style tips from the FT-1, to then be continued in their new range? Yes, There was also a video of the development of the LC500 that I posted on another thread about the new supra on here. The engineers working on it were referring to it as "supra". Toyota also released information about it (LC500) coming with a hybrid system which is the way most people would assume the new supra will go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I am a bit surprised that articles talk about the supra sharing platforms with the Z5. Is this confirmed? I thought they were going to work with BMW on a different project. I was convinced that the new supra will share platforms with the LC500. Let's wait and see. Lets hope so as that thing under the camo looks well dis-proportioned.. some styling queues from the FT-1 but totally not looking like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I just went to Toyota today to talk with my usual parts guy, and asked him what he knew about this whole situation. He said nothing internal has been released in the UK about the release of a new Supra, other then rumors. He also said that Toyota are planning to release a new mid range, smaller chassis sporty car which is soon to be out on the market. I'm going to pester him about this everytime I see him until I can get more out of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdale Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Toyota are planning to release a new mid range, smaller chassis sporty car which is soon to be out on the market. Call it the FR2 Toyota, I dare you . Then get on with making a proper Supra replacement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Call it the FR2 Toyota, I dare you . Then get on with making a proper Supra replacement! Amen! I have a feeling this will be the Ft-1 wannabe, as there are many design cues at the rear that look the same, but the front end looks so high at the sides, and makes the car look dumpy. the FT-1 was so sleek.. Im worried if they cant pull it off it'll look like an abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc92 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 The proportions look 100x better if you take about 3" off the bottom of the sideskirts and bumpers, I'm sure 80% of what we're seeing here is still camo panels anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdale Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I don't blame them for making this car, but don't let it be a Supra replacement. If the GT86 is a Celia then we need the following. 1: A BMW collaboration MR2 replacement. This will have a similar line up to the MK2 MR2 with 2 engine choices, not necessarily 2l and 2l turbo, but filling the same gaps. Say 170 and 230bhp. 2: A GT86 to fill the Celica GT4 spot. I know the "the GT86 needs more power" thing has been done to death, but seriously I think it would be right. 200hp and 275hp 3: An FT1/LC500 Supra replacement 350hp plus. Not toooo fussed on engine choices but needs to be a direct GTR competitor at the top of the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I don't blame them for making this car, but don't let it be a Supra replacement. If the GT86 is a Celia then we need the following. 1: A BMW collaboration MR2 replacement. This will have a similar line up to the MK2 MR2 with 2 engine choices, not necessarily 2l and 2l turbo, but filling the same gaps. Say 170 and 230bhp. 2: A GT86 to fill the Celica GT4 spot. I know the "the GT86 needs more power" thing has been done to death, but seriously I think it would be right. 200hp and 275hp 3: An FT1/LC500 Supra replacement 350hp plus. Not toooo fussed on engine choices but needs to be a direct GTR competitor at the top of the range. To be a direct GTR competitor it needs to have at least 600bhp and be able to put down all that power. Maybe some form of hybrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 A video has appeared of the new Supra doing snow testing, worth having a look http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/02/watch-the-2019-toyota-supra-drifting-in-the-snow.html However, what I found interesting is at the end, they are also testing the new BMW Z4. They sound VERY similar. To me that would suggest that the new Supra is either A) Not a new Supra at all, just a heavily disguised Z4 coupe, or more likely B) they share the same engine. That is a promising sign for those of us who want a straight 6 engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 A video has appeared of the new Supra doing snow testing, worth having a look http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/02/watch-the-2019-toyota-supra-drifting-in-the-snow.html However, what I found interesting is at the end, they are also testing the new BMW Z4. They sound VERY similar. To me that would suggest that the new Supra is either A) Not a new Supra at all, just a heavily disguised Z4 coupe, or more likely B) they share the same engine. That is a promising sign for those of us who want a straight 6 engine Looks a little on the small side. I like the 'double bubble' roof design, helmets in mind maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Don't like the look of that at all, that shape isn't as smooth flowing. Plus I'll go against it just to be different to Ken ^ LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 It's still wearing camouflage panels, so we can't tell what the lines will be like. They've gone to much more effort than most manufacturers to hide the shape, take from that what you will the rear 3/4 are completely covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Dont look like 2 + 2 so wouldnt even be in the same bracket as a supra more a MR2 , also have to agree with the Z4 similarities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Yet another article filled with "rumor has it" and whispers by random people. Until Toyota themselves mention anything, I'm not holding my breath. Could just be a hardtop and soft top Z5 that they're testing. They look and sound near identical with no badges on them. These pages are just writing whatever they want to generate views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC93 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 As above Also if it doesnt look anything like the FT-1 then they failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 IT'S A BMW!! Nothing more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Should start banning people that keep sharing shite like this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javedghafoor Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I am just waiting for the Tokyo motor show http://www.supramkv.com/threads/toyota-to-show-supra-concept-in-october-plus-two-more-sports-concepts.573/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I am just waiting for the Tokyo motor show http://www.supramkv.com/threads/toyota-to-show-supra-concept-in-october-plus-two-more-sports-concepts.573/ Still nothing there that's credible really, everyone quoting sources that lead to a suggestion by a nobody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 IF it is the new supra being tested and it's a big if, then I hope those wing mirrors are changed because they are horrendous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 It's not. It's a BMW. The Z5. Not the Supra. Not the Supra. Not the Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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