Chris Bailey Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 No. Not unless you're gonna pay me back enough interest to buy a TT lump? Lol Haha, Plus i'll need a clutch for the six speed so fancy lending me another £3k for a RPS clutch, That puts you up to £6k lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Put's you at £12k to pay back my friend! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Put's you at £12k to pay back my friend! Lol Oh how i love being on an Apprenticeship with next to no money lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Even as standard, the ST is noticeably quicker. Is a good second faster to 60, almost 10mph faster, handle better, have greater steering feedback, better brakes, more grip. The only plus side to the Supra is it looks far nicer, and is obviously RWD if that's your preference. The Ford is even on a par with the Supra when it comes to engine sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex2jz Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I've owned 2 N/As, one of them a 6 speed. Lovely car, but not as quick as a Focus ST. What's bad about the Focus? Heard they have some reliability issues, but they're a brilliant drive for what they are. The N/A may have circa 200hp (very few will have more than that now) but they weigh around 150kg more than the Forcus. A Supra is a Supra the Focus is just a Focus. You could be driving a nice N\A Supra and you attract more attention in a day than the Focus ST would attract in a year. One of the things i love about the Supra is the notoriety, everybody thinks that it has 1000hp and people are just amazed by the looks. With that much of attention i don't even care it's only 200hp anymore lol Also, the 6spd NA platform has unbelievable upgrading potential when compared to the Focus ST. Personally, i always thought that hatchbacks are a little "girlie". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 A Supra is a Supra the Focus is just a Focus. You could be driving a nice N\A Supra and you attract more attention in a day than the Focus ST would attract in a year. One of the things i love about the Supra is the notoriety, everybody thinks that it has 1000hp and people are just amazed by the looks. With that much of attention i don't even care it's only 200hp anymore lol Also, the 6spd NA platform has unbelievable upgrading potential when compared to the Focus ST. Personally, i always thought that hatchbacks are a little "girlie". Funny enough I was at a Wedding and some chaps came over for a look, whilst it was parked next to a R35 GTR. He was telling his mate how loads of these Supra's run 1000bhp! I didn't tell him what was actually under the hood but they all were pretty impressed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 A Supra is a Supra the Focus is just a Focus. You could be driving a nice N\A Supra and you attract more attention in a day than the Focus ST would attract in a year. One of the things i love about the Supra is the notoriety, everybody thinks that it has 1000hp and people are just amazed by the looks. With that much of attention i don't even care it's only 200hp anymore lol Also, the 6spd NA platform has unbelievable upgrading potential when compared to the Focus ST. Personally, i always thought that hatchbacks are a little "girlie". Agreed on all points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil-NA Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Its all about how you drive them, there are members here who have been wasted by polos in the past - http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?240329-My-NA-6-speed-vs-a-boring-euro-box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 A Supra is a Supra the Focus is just a Focus. You could be driving a nice N\A Supra and you attract more attention in a day than the Focus ST would attract in a year. One of the things i love about the Supra is the notoriety, everybody thinks that it has 1000hp and people are just amazed by the looks. With that much of attention i don't even care it's only 200hp anymore lol Also, the 6spd NA platform has unbelievable upgrading potential when compared to the Focus ST. Personally, i always thought that hatchbacks are a little "girlie". I'm not really bothered about the image a car has, I'm bothered about what they're like to drive. IMO an NA Supra is a nicer drive than the Focus, but it certainly isn't as quick. Theses nothing wrong with NAs, they're perfectly good at what they're designed for - being a big, comfortable sporty cruiser. But they are not quick, certainly not by modern standards. If you want a quick one, the TT is there. If you want a cheaper car but want the looks then the NA is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 So what's the point of this thread again? Where's the troll,? I think the spray worked:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Its all about how you drive them, there are members here who have been wasted by polos in the past - http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?240329-My-NA-6-speed-vs-a-boring-euro-box Jason, is this true? You seriously couldn't beat a polo? Even I am not that bad! At SantaPod this year my NA6 was only a second slower than some TT's on the strip! Justin Bieber even managed to beat a TT at pod this year, think he managed a 14.6 quarter mile in his! So you have no excuse struggling against a polo!! Edited August 31, 2012 by Abz time edited!! (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Jason, is this true? You seriously couldn't beat a polo? Even I am not that bad! At SantaPod this year my NA6 was only a second slower than some TT's on the strip! Justin Bieber even managed to beat a TT at pod this year, think he managed a 14.3 quarter mile in his! So you have no excuse struggling against a polo!! Biebs run a 14.6 i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Biebs run a 14.6 i think I was fairly close, thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I'm not really bothered about the image a car has, I'm bothered about what they're like to drive. IMO an NA Supra is a nicer drive than the Focus, but it certainly isn't as quick. Theses nothing wrong with NAs, they're perfectly good at what they're designed for - being a big, comfortable sporty cruiser. But they are not quick, certainly not by modern standards. If you want a quick one, the TT is there. If you want a cheaper car but want the looks then the NA is perfect. Which is fine. But I KNOW my NA eats standard Focus ST's. Now it's either 1, a coinkydink that I've not lost a traffic light launch to one yet, 2, my car is indeed quicker than a Focus ST, or 3, I am indeed the stig's fat cousin and am wasted being a mechanic and should almost certainly look at a career in drag racing. I'm even more positive I know an NA isn't gonna stink Ferrari's left right and centre, but I do know that at the SRR day a few years back, I had the fastest NA there. Homer was suprised at the performance, and even Charlie was amazed. This isn't a competition thread, and was meant as a light hearted little bit of banter toward Chris, but it would seem I'm being made out to be a liar. Which annoys me. Apologies for ranting people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Jason, is this true? You seriously couldn't beat a polo? Even I am not that bad! At SantaPod this year my NA6 was only a second slower than some TT's on the strip! Justin Bieber even managed to beat a TT at pod this year, think he managed a 14.6 quarter mile in his! So you have no excuse struggling against a polo!! 14.6 out of an NA? There were 320bhp M3 Evo's doing 14.3's last time I was there! Good effort! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Jason, is this true? You seriously couldn't beat a polo? Even I am not that bad! At SantaPod this year my NA6 was only a second slower than some TT's on the strip! Justin Bieber even managed to beat a TT at pod this year, think he managed a 14.3 quarter mile in his! So you have no excuse struggling against a polo!! You're going to start lecturing on Launch techniques? If you read it, I didn't get beaten, but I expected a larger gap between me and him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 No worries Ben dude, I love harmless banter so no offense taken . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 14.6 out of an NA? There were 320bhp M3 Evo's doing 14.3's last time I was there! Good effort! He did have Mickey Thompsons on the rear though which helped just a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Which is fine. But I KNOW my NA eats standard Focus ST's. Now it's either 1, a coinkydink that I've not lost a traffic light launch to one yet, 2, my car is indeed quicker than a Focus ST, or 3, I am indeed the stig's fat cousin and am wasted being a mechanic and should almost certainly look at a career in drag racing. I'm even more positive I know an NA isn't gonna stink Ferrari's left right and centre, but I do know that at the SRR day a few years back, I had the fastest NA there. Homer was suprised at the performance, and even Charlie was amazed. This isn't a competition thread, and was meant as a light hearted little bit of banter toward Chris, but it would seem I'm being made out to be a liar. Which annoys me. Apologies for ranting people. I wasn't accusing you of being a liar, and I apologise if that's how it came across. I'm just stating that, all things being equal, an NA Supra (even a 6 speed) is easy pray for an ST Focus. I know this from my own experiences, and I'm sure there was another forum member who had found the same. (JamieP possibly?) I'd put it down to your driving technique and/or your Supras condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 He did have Mickey Thompsons on the rear though which helped just a little In the immortal words of Mr Tesco - Every little helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I'm just stating that, all things being equal, an NA Supra (even a 6 speed) is easy pray for an ST Focus. I know this from my own experiences Does this include the experience with a standard looking Polo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 14.6 out of an NA? There were 320bhp M3 Evo's doing 14.3's last time I was there! Good effort! Mine does 14.3s all day long na manual as seen in the hall of fame quarter mile times thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Bieber Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 He did have Mickey Thompsons on the rear though which helped just a little the year before i did a 14.8 on nankangs, didn't help that much! Neil-NA did a 14.6 on road tyres, and i think skippyboyo got a 14.3??? i must try harder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Mine does 14.3s all day long na manual as seen in the hall of fame quarter mile times thread. Yet your so called "280hp NA" hasn't done it since.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 the year before i did a 14.8 on nankangs, didn't help that much! Neil-NA did a 14.6 on road tyres, and i think skippyboyo got a 14.3??? i must try harder! Yup on road toyos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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