Littler Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Yeah into 3rd before i crossed the line im sure but it was defo out of 2nd. So that's 2 changes 1st -> 2nd and 2nd -> 3rd not 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 According to the Top 10 BPU Supra drag racing times as posted here , 8 out of 10 are autos. Does that answer the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 O/D was off. So how did you get in to 4th gear then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 So how did you get in to 4th gear then? I never said 4th gear. Into 3rd as I crossed the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Really? Going WOT with O/D on is not a great idea IMO You mentioned o/d on I never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 So that's 2 changes 1st -> 2nd and 2nd -> 3rd not 3 Yes it is 3 gears but two changes I stand corrected on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 So that's 2 changes 1st -> 2nd and 2nd -> 3rd not 3 Moved to tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 auto's have a higher transmission loss through to the wheels mind.... They could be 10x faster in all fairness and i'd still choose the manual all day long, just feels right in a sporty car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Moved to tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littler Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 moved to tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 According to the Top 10 BPU Supra drag racing times as posted here , 8 out of 10 are autos. Does that answer the question? My point exactly if we are talking 1/4 miles. Moved to tech Funniest thing you have said yet auto's have a higher transmission loss through to the wheels mind.... They could be 10x faster in all fairness and i'd still choose the manual all day long, just feels right in a sporty car Driven any super cars lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline1 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Who we saying has the upper hand then ? I don't think this will be decided to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 auto,s are faster off the line but when the manual gets into 4th gear its starts to take the auto and then in 5th it leaves it behind. Thats what happens between my manual bpu and my mates auto bpu anyways. both have the same mods so shouldnt really be to far out on the bhp figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 an auto will accelerate slower then a maunal its gear ratio, auto has 4, manual has 6 gears. but its the human error that plays the biggest part IMO http://mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?225050-Supra-specific-gear-diff-ratio-and-tyre-size-calculator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubbyTwo Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 That's a great way to kill a thread, well done TubbyTwo. I don't mind jokes about anything to be honest but the same joke in threads over and over again gets repetitive no matter what the subject is. Think we have a few threads dedicated to this, please try and remain in these. Sorry dude, no offence intended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 My point exactly if we are talking 1/4 miles. Funniest thing you have said yet Driven any super cars lately? I said FEELS right, not whats best or is fitted to super cars, there's a good reason why manuals hold 3-4k more than autos in supra guise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 According to the Top 10 BPU Supra drag racing times as posted here , 8 out of 10 are autos. Does that answer the question? Doesn't that just say that auto's are easier to drive quicker, doesn't mean they are quicker if driven properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmhtt Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I'm sure the driver is one of the biggest factors, I remember a few years ago I had a few plays with another BPU manual when I was still stock auto. I was ahead of him the whole time. In BPU I would have left him easily but it's debatable whether this was mostly down to driver gear changing being poor. Personally,9 times out of 10 I'd whip a manual supra in a straight line and as has been said, this has been proven many times on the drag strip. The only reason a manual feels quicker is down to the whip in between gear changes where as the auto is a continual drag through. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline1 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 It's all down to the driver really, I have a auto and if I was having a race id be in manual mode anyway so would we still say that counts as a auto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) ive been told by a few people not to change to 6 speed. i was told if im going bigger to have a built autobox and you cant just go on that anyway because there is a difference between each car. ric has been in my bpu and he said it seems alot quicker than his, his car was dynod at 404 at dynodaze (not sure how reliable dynodaze are). the only difference is i have a blitz i-color boost controller with the gain set higher so your mods will make a difference plus the condition Edited June 6, 2012 by ashbuster (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 ive been told by a few people not to change to 6 speed. i was told if im going bigger to have a built autobox and you cant just go on that anyway because there is a difference between each car. ric has been in my bpu and he said it seems alot quicker than his, his car was dynod at 404 at dynodaze (not sure how reliable dynodaze are). the only difference is i have a blitz i-color boost controller with the gain set higher so your mods will make a difference plus the condition That's true. Plus BPU ranges from 370-455 bhp, so it's pretty hard to compare the transmission when the engines hardly seem to put out the same power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Sorry dude, no offence intended! No offence was taken, I was just mentioning it creeps up in every thread making it a bit repetitive, like Capital Radio. I said FEELS right, not whats best or is fitted to super cars, there's a good reason why manuals hold 3-4k more than autos in supra guise My bad. The reason why they hold more money is because of the 6 speed box & nothing else. Doesn't that just say that auto's are easier to drive quicker, doesn't mean they are quicker if driven properly? No, it pretty much says that auto's are generally quicker, you'd have to drive both to understand, the shift is very different in the auto than the manual. It's all down to the driver really, I have a auto and if I was having a race id be in manual mode anyway so would we still say that counts as a auto? Nope as you are not physically using a 'clutch' to shift the box into gear, that adds time then the auto box slipping into the next gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The auto will be quicker in a straight line, but who cares about straight lines? Corners are the difficult bit, and the manual will always be quicker then - ASSUMING you can drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 ric has been in my bpu and he said it seems alot quicker than his, his car was dynod at 404 at dynodaze (not sure how reliable dynodaze are). cars always feel a lot quicker when one is not the driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Wouldn't the fastest be a 5 speed TT, I've heard the acceleration on those is rapid due to the ratios and the down side is a low top speed something like 130. Mine takes off rapid and goes well over 130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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