RobSheffield Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 When i was first going single, i decided to prove folks wrong, and prove that you could go single for less than £5k Well, im afraid to say you cant, not a T67 with 'decent' setup. Granted, as Paul says its not going to be much over 5k to do it, but as Kyle says once you start ironing out niggles its getting over 5k. Iv gotten myself some really amazing bargains on my kit, and done all the work myself (if i did it again i wouldnt!) and even still im over 5k by a fair stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 510 on thors dyno pack, you done all the work yourself, are the parts new/ secondhand, not knocking yours at all, but 510hp on 550 injectors, fair play, and under 5k yes all the work done by myself and before anyone else cherps up 510 hp is fly not Thors infamous rear wheel figures, i am not deliberately trying to be contraversial both myself and jonny5 run T61 singles built for well under 5k Jon's was actually a lot less i am just trying to give a balanced view and this is getting a little off topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Depends on the spec you want, i suppose 5k is possible for a basic setup but one thing is for sure id not consider it if i was on a budget as things go wrong and break and you dont want to stuck with a car you cant afford to repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 i am not talking about some T78-88 lag monster that yes would cost mega bucks to build, i am talking about a daily driver at the 500 hp mark, would you like to see my reciepts, would you like a go in my car, 15 k to go single is ridiculous at the power levels we are talking, unless your a complete fool and you use some of the traders on this board with their MAHOOSIVE prices, i'll repeat myself have a look in my garage, have at look at my car then tell me i'm a bullsh**er or a liar £15k is too much and £5k is too little IMO, probably because of my MAHOOSIVE prices. The concensus so far is that I'm far from overpriced. No-one called you a bullshitter or a liar either so calm down, and I certainly cant be arsed to go through your garage spec and price it up. Like I then said, if you are already BPU and so have already upgraded your intercooler and other parts etc and you keep your eyes open in the for sale etc then yes you can build a budget single, especially if you're competent with a spanner. Not for me but each to their own. The good thing about modified cars is individuality, so lets agree to disagree When i was first going single, i decided to prove folks wrong, and prove that you could go single for less than £5k Well, im afraid to say you cant, not a T67 with 'decent' setup. Granted, as Paul says its not going to be much over 5k to do it, but as Kyle says once you start ironing out niggles its getting over 5k. Iv gotten myself some really amazing bargains on my kit, and done all the work myself (if i did it again i wouldnt!) and even still im over 5k by a fair stretch I suspect Homer would say the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 yes all the work done by myself and before anyone else cherps up 510 hp is fly not Thors infamous rear wheel figures, i am not deliberately trying to be contraversial both myself and jonny5 run T61 singles built for well under 5k Jon's was actually a lot less i am just trying to give a balanced view and this is getting a little off topic i for one would like to see yours up against someones like say pigs, not knocking yours at all mate, but there are t61 setups like you have done yourself, (wish i had the expertise) and the likes of pigs and wez,s not done on a budget;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I suspect Homer would say the same Indeed I would I just cannot see how it's possible to go from stock (or even base BPU) to a complete single for less than £5k. You could get very close to it if some budget items are used (IC, cats, exhaust for example) AND it's a DIY install, but using new branded parts the figures don't add up. I'm in the process of writing a single conversion parts list using several different options (cheap as possible T61, 'normal' T61, 'normal' T67 and high end T67), none of the figures are coming in below £6k so far provided you're going from stock or BPU spec. However I do not think this is so relevant to Imi's thread since knowing him he'll want a plug and play install & mapping that will not be DIY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Yeah apologies IMI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Its an interesting debate so maybe lets start a new thread up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 i for one would like to see yours up against someones like say pigs, not knocking yours at all mate, but there are t61 setups like you have done yourself, (wish i had the expertise) and the likes of pigs and wez,s not done on a budget;) comparing my car to Wez's or Pigs is really not the issue and define how their cars are better !, obviously they have more power due to more money spent and thats their choice, dont get me wrong fella i am not a cheap skate i am currently re-building an engine but keeping the T61 as i love the power delivery, when i have finished it will be one of the most powerfull T61 setups on this board, i am not doing it for one upmanship, i am doing it because i enjoy modifing cars and for me it will probably spell the end of the line for Supras and i will move on because i have done everything i want to do to one, so money is not the issue it is rather about personal choice, you can choose to build a no expense spared 10-15k machine and good luck to you or you can build a very effective budget single for a lot less, i choose to do things my own way and not be lead by the so called experts (have a look at my brake setup), you mentioned 550cc injectors earlier (your not the first either ), yes they are maxed out and they have been for the last 3 years do i care, no not a bit because they work, my ramble hear is trying to give a balanced view, you CAN build a reliable single turbo for under 5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 comparing my car to Wez's or Pigs is really not the issue and define how their cars are better !, obviously they have more power due to more money spent and thats their choice, dont get me wrong fella i am not a cheap skate i am currently re-building an engine but keeping the T61 as i love the power delivery, when i have finished it will be one of the most powerfull T61 setups on this board, i am not doing it for one upmanship, i am doing it because i enjoy modifing cars and for me it will probably spell the end of the line for Supras and i will move on because i have done everything i want to do to one, so money is not the issue it is rather about personal choice, you can choose to build a no expense spared 10-15k machine and good luck to you or you can build a very effective budget single for a lot less, i choose to do things my own way and not be lead by the so called experts (have a look at my brake setup), you mentioned 550cc injectors earlier (your not the first either ), yes they are maxed out and they have been for the last 3 years do i care, no not a bit because they work, my ramble hear is trying to give a balanced view, you CAN build a reliable single turbo for under 5k and i take my hat off to you matey, but my reasoning is most of the guys on here cannot wield a spanner like yourself, hence building a good single setup for under 5k is not possible, unless like yourself you have the know how and can pick up a bargain and know what to look for;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 hence building a good single setup for under 5k is not possible, unless like yourself you have the know how and can pick up a bargain and know what to look for;) Agree been there and have had three blown engines to prove it. If I had outlayed and had mine done properly in the first place I would have saved a lot of notes and frustration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 and i take my hat off to you matey, but my reasoning is most of the guys on here cannot wield a spanner like yourself, hence building a good single setup for under 5k is not possible, unless like yourself you have the know how and can pick up a bargain and know what to look for;) yes valid point as i have worked in engineering all my life, apologies to IMI as this has got a bit off piste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 doh sorry imi, is it possible a mod could put these post into a new thread as it has a lot of valid info and would be good to see how many people have done it on there own with sucess:D and would benefit any newbies thinking about budget singles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 However I do not think this is so relevant to Imi's thread since knowing him he'll want a plug and play install & mapping that will not be DIY. Thx Darryl.....I am deliberately keeping out of the cost conversations until all the work on my car is complete. All the work on my car will be done by Pheonix and the mapping done by Ryan. I would appreciate if people keep on topic as I havent even started the build and the thread is coming upto 4 pages Its an interesting debate so maybe lets start a new thread up Many thx Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Thx Darryl.....I am deliberately keeping out of the cost conversations until all the work on my car is complete. All the work on my car will be done by Pheonix and the mapping done by Ryan. I would appreciate if people keep on topic as I havent even started the build and the thread is coming upto 4 pages Many thx Ryan. Has Mark agreed to build you car imi ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 Has Mark agreed to build you car imi ? yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 yup That puts yours 6 months further back Dean:d;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 That puts yours 6 months further back Dean:d;) I was just thinking the very same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted April 6, 2008 Author Share Posted April 6, 2008 ALL THE BITS HAVE ARRIVED. Many thx to KYLETT - great prices and more importantly EXCELLENT SERVICE. Turbo will be here next weekend.... Now I need this to be installed ASAP............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 ignore me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted April 6, 2008 Author Share Posted April 6, 2008 1st Post updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 I dont see any mention of a HKS DLI, do you have or plan to get one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted April 6, 2008 Author Share Posted April 6, 2008 I dont see any mention of a HKS DLI, do you have or plan to get one? was advised not to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 was advised not to get one. By who? Is your car VVTI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 By who? Is your car VVTI? Looking in Imi's garage his car is not a VVTI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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