pab_s Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 'Kin ell! A serious lack of communication (ie not listening/reading) from the new chap. What's the point of joining a forum if you ignore what you're told? you have lost me a little there. I'll take any advise that is offered to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Majansori.. (here we go again sorry everyone) I have owned both UK and J-Spec Supras (as I'm sure others have too) so if there is a difference I would know. I bought my first UK one in 97 for a little under £30k. 4 years ago it was time to replace it, and was set on buying a UK one again because like you I somehow thought the Jap-spec was inferior/slower/less equipped/less durable. I went to look at what i thought was going to be a UK spec Supra and it turned out to be Jap Spec. My impressions on the day was it felt like it had more Torque (even though like my UK it was completely stock at the time) It was a facelift model and had a few subtle styling changes, the biggest USP for me was it had only 4k on the clock. The sacrifice that i considered was No Cruise Control (never used it anyhow) No headlight washers (only useful for spraying the legs of school girls...actually I miss that facility he he) No heated seats...all they seemed to do is warm ya farts up and make them smell more) and I chnged a few things like the headlamps and the Fog conversion etc to start with. TBH if I was buying a 95 Supra It wouldn't bother me either way J-spec or UK would depend on the condition of the car as the differences are extremely minor and neither is superior. Anyway the 97+ Supra got VVTi and they bought out an optional tiptronic gearbox, and its got newer styling...the UK one didn't get the updates. There used to be a 'bit' of snobbery between UK and J-Spec owners, I myself thought I was Superior but this happened with all cars that had Jap Import Clones...the Supra is not in that league anymore..If you want a newer one you can only buy in J-spec. I'd go for either if I was buying now...more interested in the condition of the actual car tbh. I mean its like the diffence between Strawberries grown in Japan and Strawberries grown in the UK both taste really nice...but slightly different flavour...so wtf is all the argueing about he he (yet again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 I agree, you'd still wave at one and say 'ooh look at that supe' whichever it was. Can't we argue about TT versus NA instead, there's actually some difference in those. And yes if I know it's an NA I generally say 'that's only an NA though.' (I'm gonna get a slap one of these days!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 I agree, you'd still wave at one and say 'ooh look at that supe' whichever it was. que the Supra Salute http://www.david.c.c.btinternet.co.uk/Resources/fingers42717.jpeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 apparently the Japs can't/won't drive them at all, I believe it is because of some weird road law over there- can't they only drive them every second day or something? Plus there is loads more traffic so they aren't daily runners anyway unlike cars over here. So, if you think about it the average mileage on recent imports is around 50k, UK cars of that age are around 100K so I'd say that basic maths works out ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 What kind of salute do you give if you see a Mk1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 What kind of salute do you give if you see a Mk1? Very similar as the MKII. Funnily enough, also "produces the same reaction" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Very similar as the MKII. Funnily enough, also "produces the same reaction" Thats odd that is coz BMW drivers seem to use the same Salute too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Can't we argue about TT versus NA instead, there's actually some difference in those. And yes if I know it's an NA I generally say 'that's only an NA though.' (I'm gonna get a slap one of these days!!). Oi!! Don't drag us lot into you TT boys petty and inconsequencial arguements, we don't have to worry about which ones are better (unless we start bitching the differences between SZ and SZ-R). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 you have lost me a little there. I'll take any advise that is offered to me. Not you chappie - msjarananraaathingywotzizface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Oi!! Don't drag us lot into you TT boys petty and inconsequencial arguements, Sorry, just saying they're basically a trim level apart, and we've got 2 threads and dozens of pages (not to mention previous threads) arguing about it. I could argue that the Nissan Micra I'm driving today is better than the SE I followed yesterday, even though mine is only an S!! Would anyone care? No. We all know the 'gentlemans agreement' made the spec on the jap 280bhp, but it's actually more than that (same as a GT-R34 probably is), and we could argue the spool time/torque/etc. forever, but is it worth it? The spec list is up to whoever buys the individual car surely? Just cos I do mostly town driving and have no need for cruise control is my car inferior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Actually cruise control is something I forgot to put in the list of 'useless extras', along with heated seats and headlamp washers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 We all know the 'gentlemans agreement' made the spec on the jap 280bhp, but it's actually more than that Ask Class One who yesterday got 330 from a bog standard J-spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Actually cruise control is something I forgot to put in the list of 'useless extras', along with heated seats and headlamp washers. cruise control's just your right foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Cruise control is a bunch of yet more useless crap in the engine bay, with motors and throttle cables and whatever, ready to break down someday, or worse get stuck, what a load of garbage.... That's for the US with the endless straights and 55mph speed limits and the cops hidden behind the bushes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Ask Class One who yesterday got 330 from a bog standard J-spec. Rolling roaded where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 At the Miami GT rolling road day at Surrey. **EDITED** Will be putting up the video later today/tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Thats a good showing! Makes me wanna check out surrey rolling road now BTW, his sig doesnt make out his car is stock? Wanna confirm this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Cruise control is a bunch of yet more useless crap in the engine bay, with motors and throttle cables and whatever, ready to break down someday, or worse get stuck, what a load of garbage.... That's for the US with the endless straights and 55mph speed limits and the cops hidden behind the bushes... I've got it on my GZ - great for construction zones on the motorway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 I've got it on my GZ - great for construction zones on the motorway. I didn't even bother to read how it works mate. I just try to be careful not to activate it accidentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 It's so fiddly there is no chance of it activating accidently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Thats a good showing! Makes me wanna check out surrey rolling road now BTW, his sig doesnt make out his car is stock? Wanna confirm this? Yep it is only a hks panel filter thats all.and wheels (but they don't count do they?) apart from that engine is TOTALLY standard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Wheels shouldnt matter, just a shame it has the cone filter. Still 330 is pretty good for just that one mod. Still have the stock exhaust too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Bobbeh, i have a panel filter in the stock airbox just to clarify. Wouldn't use a cone filter after reading various threads on here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 when i got mine in sep 2000 i got the first i one seen, did not know the difference between jap and uk. turns out mine was a stock facelift 96.5 car. they had another 96-97 supra with full veilside kit and 6 speed with 3 spoke advan racing wheels. i really liked the look of that car but was too much money for me. i bought mine with 35k on clock. i took it for a quick test drive and bought it. got a good part ex on my gto tt. the supra did not feel as quick as the gto, the gto had super drager and hks dump valve. a few days later nephew found this site. a few mods later and it feels pretty mad. when i first started dragging used to run 14`s took ages to get into 12`s. my car is almost a n/a it was that basic. did not have cruise control lsd active front spoiler no leather seats its weird how your tastes change over the years, i dont like the veilside supras like i did years ago. plain n simple will do me. you have to be happy with what you have. they are all good cars. just funny all this banter how it gets to people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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