RobSheffield Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I doubt that Phoenix would have bodged anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 to say that I was shocked when I read your thread would be an understatement. ....not suggesting that you pushed the car too hard.....(as owners we dont do that to our P&J); i'm merely saying that we are not dealing with original toyota parts anymore and sometimes I do get the feeling that bits and pieces are simply bogged together by most tuners out there with little care and little interest - there is just too much to go wrong. i'll get Ryan to map my car on the conservative side. yep agree, cars are built by tuners in the UK who in my opinion have a lot to answer to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I also think that to say "buy the best and you'll be fine" is not the case when going single. I think Dean is the perfect example of this & anyone thinking they can go single (as is suggested by many a thread asking questions on the reliability of singles) without problem is mistaken, IMHO it's a lottery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 I doubt that Phoenix would have bodged anything. hmm...i dont think anyone is pointing fingers at Mark's workmanship.... In any case - lets leave the discussion of Dean's car out of my thread. thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 You brought it up You are welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 IMO Mark would be gutted first of all, he spent far too long putting my car back together but he is gone with no come back and that at the end of the day is no use to me, the engine is sound as far as I know but the tuning world in the uk is a minefield regardless of the size of your wallet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 You brought it up You are welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Lol. Good comeback, very well thought out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 the tuning world in the uk is a minefield regardless of the size of your wallet Really feel for you mate and can relate to your obvious bitterness, i am in the fortunate position of working in engineering all my life so wouldn't trust anyone to even clean my car, i got stung very early on in supra ownership when i trusted a garage to change all the fluids on the car, they managed to overfill the auto gearbox by 2 litres at this point i decided never again and i would do everything myself. I know this doesn't help you now but my advise to someone like yourself going single would be to buy a mature build, whether that be an amateur or professional build it doesn't matter, but the main thing is a car thats been running reliably for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) Really feel for you mate and can relate to your obvious bitterness, i am in the fortunate position of working in engineering all my life so wouldn't trust anyone to even clean my car, i got stung very early on in supra ownership when i trusted a garage to change all the fluids on the car, they managed to overfill the auto gearbox by 2 litres at this point i decided never again and i would do everything myself. I know this doesn't help you now but my advise to someone like yourself going single would be to buy a mature build, whether that be an amateur or professional build it doesn't matter, but the main thing is a car thats been running reliably for some time. Nice idea but not really going to work long term, to be honest when you spend the money I have spent I would expect a small amount of relability along the way !! dont you think Dean Edited January 4, 2009 by tooquicktostop (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Nice idea but not really going to work long term, to be honest when you spend the money I have spent I would expect a small amount of relability along the way !! dont you think Dean Somewhere on the forum I did a post for Matt H about how I personally get a car modified. It all hinged around taking it slowly and easing the car in to things. The single turbo supras that have been modified and then left for a while before the next stage seem to last longer. Look at Foodfreak's car, thats had no engine or turbo problems even though its a daily driver and is driven to 1.4bar all the time. I do think its a shame that you are giving in. I would personally throw another turbo on there and get the oil feeds checked. Its a small cost in comparison to the whole build, and its the winter so you wont be able to use the car hard at the moment anyway. Run the car through to the summer and then see how you feel about it. Selling at this time of year is a very bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 to be honest when you spend the money I have spent I would expect a small amount of relability along the way !! dont you think Dean damm right you would mate, however in the motor trade once the garage doors have closed on your pride and joy its pot luck whether you get the time served old hand (if they even have one) or the young lad whos "handy with a spanner", the one constant is you still pay £50 an hour regardless of who is wielding the spanners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 Many thanks to Ryan and to Charlie. A fantastic tuning session with the car utterly transformed. Bags loads of torque, great power and excellent AFRs resulting in a smooth and effortless pull to crazy leptons. Ryan hooked up a switch in order to toggle between a low boost and high boost map. This works like a charm and essentially transforms the car from 500 > 550+ bhp - and boy do you notice it. Love it. Will scan and post up the graphs soon and get Wez to update the ECU register. Many thanks guys....... P.S: Thanks for the advice on the breather - no more blingy oil catch tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Many thanks to Ryan and to Charlie. A fantastic tuning session with the car utterly transformed. Bags loads of torque, great power and excellent AFRs resulting in a smooth and effortless pull to crazy leptons. Ryan hooked up a switch in order to toggle between a low boost and high boost map. This works like a charm and essentially transforms the car from 500 > 550+ bhp - and boy do you notice it. Love it. Will scan and post up the graphs soon and get Wez to update the ECU register. Many thanks guys....... P.S: Thanks for the advice on the breather - no more blingy oil catch tank nice one IMI looking forward to seeing the graphs for the DBB T61, the breather bit is very topical for me at the moment as i am looking at this, what was the advise if you dont mind me asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Nice one matey, how are your inlet temps now then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) nice one IMI looking forward to seeing the graphs for the DBB T61, the breather bit is very topical for me at the moment as i am looking at this, what was the advise if you dont mind me asking Paul, i've been looking through many past discussions on oil catch tanks and personally I dont really understand the purpose of such tanks. my logic being that if they were really required then they would already be on the car in some shape or form (always looking to be corrected if needed). with that thinking in mind, Ryan did suggest that the entire goal of the exercise was to move the breather filter away from he hot engine so with the help of some braided hose / pipe with a breather filter attached to it on one end, we should be able to solve the issue. Question is, there are two breather filters, I am assuming that I need to do this for both, or just the one on the turbo side? Nice one matey, how are your inlet temps now then? after many 1.4 bar repeated runs, the air intake temps were in the low 30s and according to ryan, perfectly acceptable. In OUR opinion - Car would have pushed more power (high 500s) had I had a less restrictive exhaust. Mine is an Apexi N1 Evo - it is very quiet and for me, that is a price I am willing to pay for comfort. 556bhp is plenty for me. Edited January 4, 2009 by imi (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Question is, there are two breather filters, I am assuming that I need to do this for both, or just the one on the turbo side? Usually just the turbo side, though I was surprised at the noise the small K&N filter made on the intake side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Nice one, glad the intake temps are good now, shows the quality of the CW side mount, what was your ftlb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 after many 1.4 bar repeated runs, the air intake temps were in the low 30s and according to ryan, perfectly acceptable. Much better, CW SMIC is good isnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Wasn't the Miami smic mapped in the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Question is, there are two breather filters, I am assuming that I need to do this for both, or just the one on the turbo side? not sure what you mean here IMI and your engine pics in your garage are minute, do you mean you have a filter on each side of the cam covers, one where the PCV would be and one where the intake connection would have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Or is it a filter on the idle air solenoid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Wasn't the Miami smic mapped in the summer? Correct - just before Le Mans. not sure what you mean here IMI and your engine pics in your garage are minute, do you mean you have a filter on each side of the cam covers, one where the PCV would be and one where the intake connection would have been Thx for pointing that out - I have now fixed the photos. - there is an one air breather on BOTH Cam covers - one is on the turbo side and the 2nd is towards the rear of the engine on the throttle side. I tried to remove the air breather from the turbo side, not sure how the hell it is mounted, despite removing the jubilee clips it still wont come off - any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Correct - just before Le Mans. Thx for pointing that out - I have now fixed the photos. - there is an one air breather on BOTH Cam covers - one is on the turbo side and the 2nd is towards the rear of the engine on the throttle side. I tried to remove the air breather from the turbo side, not sure how the hell it is mounted, despite removing the jubilee clips it still wont come off - any ideas? Do you mean as per picture 12 in your garage, in which case as Tony has said, the nearside one is connected to the idle air solenoid. The pipe from the cam cover has a slight ridge on the top. It should come off with a good pull. Edit: Have a look at this picture here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 there is an one air breather on BOTH Cam covers - one is on the turbo side and the 2nd is towards the rear of the engine on the throttle side. The throttle side one is the intake for the idle control valve, not part of the breather system. I'd get the breather system closed again by plumbing the turbo side one back into the intake pre-turbo -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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