The Raven

By stake in the game i mean I dont know why good morning Britain would want any outcome over another. Its also odd to think "no one will notice" I guess if they wanted an outcome and didn't get it they could delete it seems pointless and just causes more issues. Where they going to discuss the outcome? I can see them not wanting to do that light fully tv show descending into deep divide. They have history for doing this, they ran a poll about eurovison being held in Israel only to delete it.

I doubt good morning Britain have that much of a stake in the game. If they where that bothered they may not get the result that they wanted they wouldnt have run it. I suppose you could claim the government runs the media. Id counter and claim they clearly dont seeing boris is being pushed though the meat grinder. Has there been any explanation?

Im planing on paying off my house using dash panels, an engine mount and a ODO. Im undecided if i want to put in a pool, if i do then im willing to part with a working ashtray

Ive been watching your sale to see what i should ask for my agreed next year as both our cars are roughly the same spec. I settled mine for 30k and the insurance agreed. This time of year is rubbish to try and sell, spring maybe better.

Those MEPS wont make a slight bit of difference. EU gunna EU thats why we are better off out of it. I totally disagree with idiot at 39 minutes, just so i understand, he refuses the vaccine fair enough, he refuses to test? Thats not on. "i dont bow i dont knell only in front of god" no mate they just want to make sure your not about to infect people around you some of which may die. He then went on to compare having to test to religious and political persecution. IMO you need to pick a reasonable hill to die on. No compulsory vax? I think you will find alot of support. Ending all testing, vaccines, and other messures....not so much

The use of NAC is great im all for treatments any tool that helps if welcome by me. Vaccine passports to travel are put in place by the country you are intending to visit? This brings me back to the "whole world theory" Unless you believe that the world is being controlled by one hidden government why would all of them use the same course of action. Unless they have worked out it the best thing to do. I mean stopping tourists in certain counties is economic suicide. World pulled together was more along the lines of 1. Rules and restrictions being roughly the same in every country not one broke ranks. I guess maybe swede bucked the trend however that was soon corrected https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-admits-coronavirus-strategy-underestimated-strenght-virus-lofven-stefan-2020-12?r=US&IR=T 2. Huge amounts of funding being pumped in for research and ultimately vaccines from ever where. Devex tracked COVID-19 funding from Jan. 1, 2020, to June 27, 2020. As of June 27, the funding committed to combating the coronavirus exceeded $21.7 trillion, Thats a huge response as species. There was a certain time mostly when the videos of overwhelmed Italian hospitals where being shown or the trucks in NYC when as humans we all put down the differences and pulled to a common goal. Hard to think of another time when that has happened

I have no idea why they have deleted it. Im quite clear on my stance on that. You have the right to refuse, same as you have the right to refuse any form of medical intervention. Removing it wont change anyones mind seems like a pointless thing to do. I dont think its a huge cover up as removing it serves no purpose im open to suggestions as to why they may have done it and what they hoped to gain from it. Indeed freedom of speech is so alive that this was allowed to be in one of the largest newspapers in the country. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10294237/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-party-Ill-lie-want-to.html Hes saying basically that bringing england in line with the rest of the UK was just an attempt to cover up boris and the parties. Thats insane thinking your thinking you will distract from a scandal by doing the thing they did in the scandal. This will further empower "i do not consent". Which if the new variant turns out to be weaker is fine. If its not and we see scenes like in Italy at the start of this then not so much. The truth is the mail hates work from home as it affects landlords renting huge buildings and people dont go and pick up a paper on the way to work. We are in a perfect storm, if this goes badly people wont listen anymore. Me i liken it to if i see Boris driving around with no seat belt does not mean i will refuse to wear one. Im hardly putting one over on him if i go head first though the windscreen. Others will think differently which i guess is fair enough.

I wont copy your post, but i understand your typo now. I will take my previous assumption back. I have indeed had flu all be it in my early 20s laid me up for week. I also had a run in with viral pneumonia in my mid 30s. That was a whole different ball game. I can honesty say i thought i may die. I was more or less fit as a fiddle granted i have asthma but its controlled and does not stop me from gymming swimming, kickboxing ect. 2 weeks in hospital followed by 2 month recovery. The issue is covid seems to scatter gun the people it kills. Sure most or old or ill but some like this guy still get killed by it https://inews.co.uk/news/health/fit-healthy-former-body-builder-42-dies-from-covid-hospital-after-refusing-vaccine-1135338 rare sure but they dont know why. Same here 90 years old and she lives https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2020-07-08/clap-of-honour-as-90-year-old-covid-survivor-leaves-hospital I often wonder the public reaction if it had killed mostly the very young. IE 0 to 3 year olds all dying. While i tend to agree to a point about Natural immunity ie i dont run in and wash dirt off a cut or stop my kids playing in the dirt you must concede certain vaccines have alter the world for the better. polio and smallpox stick out. Do you think it is acceptable for a government to become totalitarian when deaths are embellished, the science being reported is one sided, there is loss of freedom, you vaccinate healthy people, segregate society and suppress free knowledge about the effects of the jab? Now take into account the loss of business that people have worked so hard to build up and how interfering with natural human behaviour is knackering society. I think the deaths are recorded the way they are in order to stop people claiming they are hiding them. IE death within 28 days covid mentioned on the cert. Is it right? id rather have the cause of death noted. However they know so little can they honestly say covid had no factor in the heart attack? Killed by a bus while having covid? Im with you. Vaccinate healthy people see above. It may well kill a healthy person just as a weak one again they dont know why. Vaccine passports im undecided on. I would need to see multiple independent reports proving the affects of transmission or lack thereof Business has suffered i do believe the furlough scheme did its best, not that i took part as i was still working. Agreed the lock downs have made society suffer. I guess i really struggle with finding a reason for every world government to act in the same way. To all follow the same idea with not one breaking ranks. You mention china and russia. Can you imagine if they came out and said "hey no need to lockdown or issue vaccines your government is lying heres the proof" They didn't they just followed the same line as everyone else. This world rarely pulls together for anything but they did for covid. So unless someone is controlling them all i tend to think it has to be the right response.

I have copied this from your post above "None of this makes sense, none of it. It is mass hysteria about influenza. Why push/force the vaccine when it is obvious to all it doesn’t stop transmission, doesn’t work and the risks for most people outweigh any benefit?" That clearly says the vaccine does not work. If ive read that wrong then im happy to stand corrected. You have constantly called covid influenza. "Overview. Influenza is a viral infection that attacks your respiratory system — your nose, throat and lungs. Influenza is commonly called the flu" That suggests to me that you think covid is merely the flu. Therefore covid isnt real its just the flu. If im wrong on that then im happy to change my thinking on that. Im happy to answer and debate anyone. If your asking me why i think countries are doing what they are doing? I believe they are doing what they think is best based on the advise they are getting from the medical boards of said country. Edit, indeed big sup and i clearly disagree but he has his belief that its the great reset in motion. I dont know enough about that to offer an opinion he believes that and that is fine. Im actually interested in peoples reasons why they think is all happening if its now what is being portrayed

Awful lot of whys, I can only assume that you have a rough guess. Why do you honestly think the world is acting like this? Id also like to see the proof the vaccine does not work. I think that a bit of a bold claim. If you believe they can Fudge numbers at will why would they not just say everyone thats died is unvaxed? As i said my Mother in law died of covid, my brother in law was crippled by it and is still suffering from its affects. My son had it and didn't have any anything worse than a cold. Now my son is disabled and im his carer so carry all his care needs. I never got it, i was coughed on sneezed on i couldn't have tried to catch it any better if id set out with the goal to get myself infected. Was it that id had both vaccines about 3 weeks before? The numbers this time last year with no vaccine where roughly 800 dead per day? this year 100. What changed? By jan of 2021 we peaked at 1800. If your correct and the vaccine does nothing then we should see that again?

Calor gas heaters are death traps. they use the air in the room to burn and spew fumes into the room as they have no flue. Sure they have certain features but I wouldn’t trust them. They are so dodgy that when I used to carry out draught proofing to a house if there was one anywhere in the home it was a walk away job. portable heat I’d go for oil filled rad.

Ive been running a free standing log burner for 10 years in the living room I coupled this with the TADO heating system that calls for heat for single radiators or zones. I have saved a small fortune. Well enough to buy a new ashtray from toyota but same difference

My next family car will be a EV. I love my xtrail but i do mostly short trips around so a EV would make perfect sense. I dont think i can afford one but i will be blagging a test drive https://www.nissan.co.uk/vehicles/new-vehicles/ariya.html

Australia have always been something of a odd one on basic human rights For example they are more than happy to push back immigrants on boats, im not allowed to immigrate to Australia as my son who is disabled is labeled as a drain on the state. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-22/australian-government-deporting-children-because-of-disability/100018362 I will leave that here to. To hear them on this subject does not shock me at all. They will be more than happy to ban unvax people from going to work, then ban them from getting any state help.

Funny how the narrative has changed Australia was being held up as the burning light of freedom when they where carrying on with no lockdowns. Now they are the utter worst of the worst.

They have said they are allowed to work and go to essential shops i believe. Enforcement? thats the part that will take this in a new direction. They cant police that at all. Tags? If you refuse jail? As you can probably tell ive had all my jabs and will happily debate until the cows come home but thats to far.

I’m merely stating if you have the right to refuse treatment for possibly the worst condition possible and simply die from from it then you should have the right to refuse a vaccine you don’t want. I’m not comparing the two at all. just so I’m clear every country that have agreed to use said vaccines scientific boards have all been brought off using shares and pay rises? Who approached them? None of them refused? That again would take a huge underground movement to get to and influence that many people. Then you would have to keep them all silent for it to work? Again maybe one or two I could believe but not every single one. Pfizer Shares are 9p per share higher than they where in 1999. If your correct then the plan isn’t working to well at all. Normal people was referring to the ones that have not been told/paid off or given holidays to approve vaccines ie the average person on the street. Free thought is still free, free speech can be very very dangerous depending on who’s talking but mostly you can still say what you want. As I said above I agree with you about free choice even when it comes to medical treatments or vaccines. Currently you have the right to refuse medical help if you wish to the point of being allowed to discharge yourself from hospital with life ending issues. I really don’t see how this should be changed to force a vaccine on people. If you want people to get vaccinated you have to find out why they won’t then deal with those issues. Banning them from most of daily life will probably force some but others could see their lives wrecked which isn’t fair at all. With that in mind what would you need to take the vaccine?

Yeah the club needs this ASAP, Coming from someone that just had a MOT failure on a ball joint...

As i stated above, ultimately i think you should have the right to refuse, as i said you can refuse life saving cancer treatment if you wish. Surprised that one team of scientists fudged results no. Surprised that a whole world of independent ones did? Yeah. Unless you are talking about the great reset where everyone's in on it? Again question what im being told? If it was just the UK ? Sure, maybe if it was just a few countries........But the whole world? Again it would have to be an agenda where everyone's in on it or an NWO style hidden government is pulling the strings? I have to ask the question whats the end game? Whats the final point in all this if its not for the good of normal people?

They all work for the highest bidder? From Russia to China the US to here? infallible no, but once again seeing every medical board in the world that has looked at the this has all agreed to use it the chances of them all being wrong? Or wait are they all on the take? Again I have zero medical knowledge about who should get a vaccine I’m a care worker. As for the flu vaccine I’ve had every year for god knows how long, I think I had the pneumonia one a few years back to. However, the right to choose to take a vaccine IMO should be down to the person taking it. At the end of the day you can refuse cancer treatment and be let out to die if you so wish.

Power and control on a global scale? So every world leader has agreed on this plan? Again this refers to my earlier post if an election happens and another party gets in do they continue the narrative? If so that would require 10s of thousands of people to be in on this. Unless your talking about a hidden power NWO thing? Even then if a NWO type of organisation is in affect they are already in control of the entire worlds political establishment and make every law they want anyway.

Ok i trust your talking about our government in England, But surely the fact most other world leaders are using the same system holds some weight? I have to ask what do you think this is all in aid off if none of it is needed?

Easy I don’t go to a heart surgeon for advise on foot issues. If maybe one of the many many top scientists that work for every government in the world that has sanctioned the use of these jabs had said “no way” then it holds weight. Same as I wouldnt take advise on how to fix my Supra from a local garage when I have everyone here and srd telling me what’s wrong with it. A few nurses and doctors refusing does not outweigh streams of virologists and governing bodies of countries. MMR causes Autism remember that? Well last year at my sons school for severely autistic children there was a outbreak of measles about 5 un vax kids got really sick. ive seen Covid kill my mother in law and cripple my brother in law. I’ve also seen my son catch it and show no symptoms at all. By all means roll that dice but let’s not pretend internet research outweighs real professionals

I guess i wouldnt feel have any leg to stand on *Pun intended* In the middle of AE to start questioning the Doctor as to his diagnoses and the treatment. My brain would tell me they know what they are doing they have studied for years to make that call. Cant say me googling it and suggesting my own course of action would be "best for me" as with zero medical training i have no idea what im talking about and limped in to them asking for help. If i was capable of taking my own xrays, checking for DVT and then deciding what drugs i should take i would not need their help at all? In terms of covid vax you are talking about 100s of independent countries own medical boards all deciding to remove the wrong leg. When you suggest home work who should we be listening to then?

That’s what the highly educated scientists and academics have worked out is best to stop variants. I’ve heard them repeatedly today say today “none of us are safe until we are all safe” Personally I went into hospital a few weeks back they hooked me up to various Iv drips for a infected knee joint. I didn’t ask them for the ingredients or demand to know how long it’s been tested for I trusted the people that know what they are doing to help me make decisions I have absolutely no idea about. Without pushing to much if you don’t believe they are injecting children for the good of the population what do you believe they are doing it for?