Miguel Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 It's a difficult situation for sure and one of the reasons why I decided to shy away from opening a garage. I like to take my time over things and get them just so, but you just couldn't run a business like that. Very few people would want to pay for the number of hours it would take to get a car perfect. I can relate to that, it does seem swiftness rather than quality is more profitable. Having said that, if everyone like yourself that took pride in their work thought the same, what way does that leave the industry? There is room in the market for 'specialists' that take their time and do things correct the first time round. It can also be very profitable, just depends what market you target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Great to see members pulling together and helping out. As for the build, what can one say other than wow:blink: It does look very much like the CP has been the instigator of all the damage, never seen one shatter like that though. I wonder if it was damaged pre fitting? I'm not too sure throwing it back together without a visual inspection of the bearings is such a wise move, after all, the engine has been rotating with no oil pressure; soon find out I suppose. Try it and hope method. I wonder if the crank pulley wasn't new if it was pulled off using some pulley pullers on the outer mass? Agree with checking the mains, might as well seeing as it's accessible now. Wouldn't want to put it together only for it to come apart again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 I can relate to that, it does seem swiftness rather than quality is more profitable. Having said that, if everyone like yourself that took pride in their work thought the same, what way does that leave the industry? There is room in the market for 'specialists' that take their time and do things correct the first time round. It can also be very profitable, just depends what market you target. I weighed it up for quite some time but I can't see the general collective Supra owners as a target audience being willing to spend the money. How often do we see threads where people are questioning the £10k that everyone says a single will cost. IMHO that's the starting cost, not the top end of the budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Looks like the car was worked on by these two: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/editorial_images/non_imported/bernie_leepu_small.jpg Sorry to see the state of it, luckily there are some great members on here and hopefully you'll have it all sorted in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lover Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Has been on today..... http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=2745583&postcount=148 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest argy911 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 If I was you I'd , call trading standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 I wonder if the crank pulley wasn't new if it was pulled off using some pulley pullers on the outer mass? . A possibility, along with impact damage from mishandling, or even foreign debris from no undertray being fitted? I weighed it up for quite some time but I can't see the general collective Supra owners as a target audience being willing to spend the money. How often do we see threads where people are questioning the £10k that everyone says a single will cost. IMHO that's the starting cost, not the top end of the budget. That's a wide brush you are using there Tony, even if I am inclined to agree to a certain extent. The world is a much larger place than just Supra's though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybrendan Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 overall i think the weekend went well.at least lee now knows what he needs to get and the reason for the damage.too be honest i wouldnt consider it to be very hard to get it running again pretty soon.we will be working out a list of parts that will be needed to correct things.so if anybody has any of the obvious parts lying aroundand feel the need to donate them then please send lee a pm. just one point on the removing of the suprame braces,if the garage thought it was really ok to do this then why didnt those parts get put in the box of bits lee was given back.It wouldnt be that hard a job to route it correctly and will be done right when we have all the parts to go up again. now the weekend is out the way i have to crack on with my own car now. Chin up lee good to see you smilling again mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 If I was you I'd , call trading standards i agree show them all the photos, receipts etc. leaving that chassis brace off could have been life threatening. and fair play to the lads who went and sorted it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Well just got in Not much to add that has not already been said we started about 9.30 and finaly finnished about 7 If we was to take a sump off again i would say remove engine could be easyer Thanks lee for the night out got in about 3.30 ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 overall i think the weekend went well.at least lee now knows what he needs to get and the reason for the damage.too be honest i wouldnt consider it to be very hard to get it running again pretty soon.we will be working out a list of parts that will be needed to correct things.so if anybody has any of the obvious parts lying aroundand feel the need to donate them then please send lee a pm. just one point on the removing of the suprame braces,if the garage thought it was really ok to do this then why didnt those parts get put in the box of bits lee was given back.It wouldnt be that hard a job to route it correctly and will be done right when we have all the parts to go up again. now the weekend is out the way i have to crack on with my own car now. Chin up lee good to see you smilling again mate. Nice. Hope Lee keeps smiling too. Get a parts list up Barney. Well just got in Not much to add that has not already been said we started about 9.30 and finaly finnished about 7 If we was to take a sump off again i would say remove engine could be easyer Thanks lee for the night out got in about 3.30 ish I just knew there'd be a night out involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybrendan Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Thanks lee for the night out got in about 3.30 ish dont forget to mention your poll dancing antics with buster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 dont forget to mention your poll dancing antics with buster Any pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneybrendan Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Any pics? unfortunately not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Thank god !! Got some nice bruses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 i agree show them all the photos, receipts etc. leaving that chassis brace off could have been life threatening. and fair play to the lads who went and sorted it This will not be what you guys want to hear but one of what is widely regarded to be one of THE top cars on this forum built by a VERY respected tuner has never had either brace on it. This is a no expense spared car and VERY well known, like I said I would be more worried about the battery cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 This will not be what you guys want to hear but one of what is widely regarded to be one of THE top cars on this forum built by a VERY respected tuner has never had either brace on it. This is a no expense spared car and VERY well known, like I said I would be more worried about the battery cover. Must... resist... bodged comments.... Out of interest, how many people have had a think about what those braces are doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Must... resist... bodged comments.... Out of interest, how many people have had a think about what those braces are doing? Thats my point Tony, if someone were to dare slag this car off they would be slaughtered especially if you knew who built it (no they are not a trader on here, far bigger than that) so because a very well known tuner does it then does that make it ok???? Out of interest EXACTLY what do those braces do:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 dont forget to mention your poll dancing antics with buster Oh god he's been at it again shame to miss it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Spill the beans Dude, i want to know who to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 du luck !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 my lips are sealed:tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 I'll guess at Trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Always makes me laugh about suposed bodges, Ive never removed a brace for screamer pipe etc but i have had one in my hand and the gauge of the metal isnt exactly massive, I cant see it doing much, and i very much doubt it is life threatening.. What about the other bodges that are now the norm, like removing the ali bar at the front when fitting certain bumpers or if your intercooler is two big.. Ide say removing the tiebar from the chassis legs is much more dangerous to the car and yourselves. Or removing the brace in the trans tunnel because your exhaust knocks it, seen that alot. Another bodge ive seen a lot of is the water neck that the top rad hose goes on to has a pipe joining the two unused pipes together. But is it really a bodge? it does work, sure it would look better if the pipes were removed then welded up and then polished so you couldnt tell they had been there but they work just the same, in fact exactly the same.. If the gain outweighs the loss then at some point it will become acceptable. (to Some) There is always gonna be different ways of doing things some cheaper than others, if your loaded then go for it, if you dont have loads of cash then you have to compromise, I think there is room for both.. However some of the stuff on lees is amature at best looking at the pics.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 It must be doing something or i cant see toyota fitting it, either way there is much worse things to worry about on lee's car, the worst being the fuel system and oil return, both that could easily see the car go up in flames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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