Suprash Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 What would be quicker...............? Was a bit surprised by this Evo, didnt realise they squeezed as much bhp and tourque out of a 2ltr as we get in the Supra....... So obviously the Evo is listed as 3.9 0-60, but what about above that, in the Supras best range say 80-150, and could the Evo really pull 175 top end out of a 2ltr, I thought 2ltr's just didnt have the guts to pull that sort of top end, Im very disappointed if this is true........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 What would be quicker...............? Was a bit surprised by this Evo, didnt realise they squeezed as much bhp and tourque out of a 2ltr as we get in the Supra....... So obviously the Evo is listed as 3.9 0-60, but what about above that, in the Supras best range say 80-150, and could the Evo really pull 175 top end out of a 2ltr, I thought 2ltr's just didnt have the guts to pull that sort of top end, Im very disappointed if this is true........ Against a standard supra, I would say the evo... but thats not exactly a fair comparison. Also that car is designed more for track style racing. So not exactly the most comfortable thing to drive. EDIT - Its bloody quick. Saw it on TopGear racing a Lambo Murchi around a track and the lambo ended up pushing to hard. But you could literally see the evo gain meters as they approached and went through the corners/bends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Against a standard supra, I would say the evo... but thats not exactly a fair comparison. Also that car is designed more for track style racing. So not exactly the most comfortable thing to drive. EDIT - Its bloody quick. Saw it on TopGear racing a Lambo Murchi around a track and the lambo ended up pushing to hard. But you could literally see the evo gain meters as they approached and went through the corners/bends. My mate went to test drive one, and he was pit off with the clutch it was the same as TG you did stall all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 My mate went to test drive one, and he was pit off with the clutch it was the same as TG you did stall all the time. Same as TG ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I had a play with a FQ400 on the motorway a couple of weeks ago, at the time i was only running 0.7bar(about 400ish bhp) and there was nothing in it between us.. i hope i bump into him again now im 1.4bar:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 yeah, thats what I have heard, clutch is a pain in the ass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Same as Top Gear review. My understanding is that Owens development put these cars together. But they were put together to hit 400bhp AND run for 100k, they were sold as Mitsubishi cars and so had to carry a full warranty. So in order to make sure they lasted the course, I believe they used a turbo larger than necessary. Obviously worked less hard than a smaller turbo would have, andtherefore less stressed. Downside is they are laggy. Here to be corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayssupra Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 So would you say it would be close between a bpu and evo fq400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I think the Evo would win, it's lighter and once on boost it kept up with a Lamborghini round the Top Gear track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Do a search on the mlr anyone thinking of getting one, they have many problems and owners have not been impressed with them, most say the FQ340 is a far better car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 400bhp from 2 litres. A marvel of engineering, however, it comes at a price. Servicing every 2000-3000 miles. IF I was going to have an EVO it would be the FQ340 everytime. Anyone know what torque it produces (the fq400 that is?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Have a read of this.. FQ340 is faster in most situations. http://www.lancerregister.com/art_fq400report.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayssupra Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 How much doe's a supra weigh, just checked the FQ400 it's 1410 kg, is that lighter than a supra tt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Evo FQ400 would murder your average Supra in most situations until it kills the clutch or gearbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I don't think they're geared up to do much more than about 160 are they? They're slightly lighter but their 4wd will slow 'em down a little so it's a tough one, I s'pose it's all down to the conditions they're in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Evo FQ400 would murder your average Supra in most situations until it kills the clutch or gearbox or it's at the dealer for a service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 400bhp from 2 litres. A marvel of engineering Hardly I wonder what 1000 out of a 3.0 or 1400 out of a 2.6 is called then Big turbo means just its crapto drive off boost. But I think you'd be hard pressed to beat it around a road course as its so light and with a good amount of power to make it very fast. For motorway racing would be different story, I believe a BPU Supra should kill it at mid-top end speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Don't know what the transmission losses are like on the Evo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Don't know what the transmission losses are like on the Evo. 90 bhp loss on my evo7... 370bhp@fly.... 280bhp@wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 What mods did it have Jamie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 What mods did it have Jamie? Full magnex decat exhaust and ecu-tek remap... Paul wiffin now has it as his daily driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakewebster Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I was told the FQ 300 is the one to buy if you plan to tune it up. Apparently a lot of the stuff that gives the extra power has to come off before you can turn up the boost etc. I await someone telling me otherwise. There is on goin on the modified gumball this year so will be interesting to see how that goes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Full magnex decat exhaust and ecu-tek remap... Paul wiffin now has it as his daily driver. Nice i fancy something 4wd for next winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Nice i fancy something 4wd for next winter. I never liked it much, my mate had a P1 at the same time and i much prefred that..The P1 handled better and was faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Well according to the stats its 0-60 in 3.9, making around 366bhp /355 in torque, top end 175mph supposedly........and weighing slightly less then the Supra....... But I hope our 3ltr lump helps on the top end, as in how quick it gets there above a ton, surely the 2ltr would be running out of steam above a ton compared to the Supra no ? Gaz, have a word with your mate, he's trying to know the Supra of its pedastal...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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