Nic Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 i dont think its you place to brand peoples products junk and not for for purpose. that may be your opininion but the cheap kit has been very fit for my purpose. it will not suffice for a high end massive power build but the manifold, turbo and downpipe have done me fine for my needs Just my opinion, members can take it or leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 What's your budget for the total build? Forget cheap kits, they are cheap because IMHO they're junk and not fit for purpose, a decent quality kit will cost £3K-£4K+ and the total build cost £10K+. You could buy used parts and save some money but that comes with some risk. If you are looking for a 'budget' kit I'd go with the PHR street kit. thats fair enough. i fixed it for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Do a search on here for 'suprastore' they do not have a good reputation. Does not every company have a Little bit of bad about them? i know people from the UK that order from them, no problems i can also Remember JamieP saying he has not had a problem with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 im only looking for around 550 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 im making circa 500 with the eqivilent na-t kit and an emb with 550cc injectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 i have heard of suprastore storys, but it cant be all bad, As for the xspower turbo, didnt chris wilson get one and test it iirc i think the results where it was suited for a desiel and the turbine doesnt like the higher heat of the petrol engine, i swear i read it in a thread some years ago, they may have changed the turbo since then though as dr jekyll has had no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 thats fair enough. i fixed it for you Never said I was humble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Never said I was humble touche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay200bhp Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 they are crap though i dont think its you place to brand peoples products junk and not for for purpose. that may be your opininion but the cheap kit has been very fit for my purpose. it will not suffice for a high end massive power build but the manifold, turbo and downpipe have done me fine for my needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 you can think that as you see my car dissapeer into the distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 you can think that as you see my car dissapeer into the distance have you got a dyno pint out whats the spool like ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Don't ahve any experience with xspower however I have bought stuff from the states (ebay) and from traders on here and to be honest it depends what you buy as to what the quality is like. I bought an fmic from ebay after speaking to a friend who competes in drifiting with an s14, the welds were perfect and the piping made up just as it should, even had beaded edges. My manifold is a cast effort from emusa and again the quality was very good, no casting flash and pretty well mated to the ports as standard, also hasn't leaked yet. I have however bought from traders on here recently and the parts are exactly what you can get on ebay (this is my opinion but its bloody obvious when you open the box!), even the jubiless clips I got with one thing had thr brand name from an ebay company stamped on it and believe it or not the fit wasn't great although worked with some persuassion. In my opinion 'you get what you pay for' does not hold weight with everything you buy, sometimes things are cheaper simply because you cut out the middle man. Although oil lines is a definate NO from ebay, trust me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Don't ahve any experience with xspower however I have bought stuff from the states (ebay) and from traders on here and to be honest it depends what you buy as to what the quality is like. I bought an fmic from ebay after speaking to a friend who competes in drifiting with an s14, the welds were perfect and the piping made up just as it should, even had beaded edges. My manifold is a cast effort from emusa and again the quality was very good, no casting flash and pretty well mated to the ports as standard, also hasn't leaked yet. I have however bought from traders on here recently and the parts are exactly what you can get on ebay (this is my opinion but its bloody obvious when you open the box!), even the jubiless clips I got with one thing had thr brand name from an ebay company stamped on it and believe it or not the fit wasn't great although worked with some persuassion. In my opinion 'you get what you pay for' does not hold weight with everything you buy, sometimes things are cheaper simply because you cut out the middle man. Although oil lines is a definate NO from ebay, trust me... said perfectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 have you got a dyno pint out whats the spool like ? there is a 0.9bar dyno print on my mr hyde build thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 If your wanting to go single go with a Whifbitz kit, they have been proven on here to be decent kits by a few members. Who is running the whifbitzs NA-T kit as I asked this question before but had no response, Always been curious to see how people are getting on with his kit and what their thoughts on it were after owning and running it for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 you can think that as you see my car dissapeer into the distance You know Jay has a Billet 67 single setup yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 i ment on a twisty circuit ofcorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Welsh-Stealth- Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 T61 fine here... Not running massive power. But so far no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbuster Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 what would be the better to go for if someone went for a budget kit, would it be the t61 or the one from suprastore that welshbuddie posted? im not looking for much more 550 max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Personally I'd go for the xspower one if I had to. Mainly because you might get the kit from xspower uk and avoid import duties, xspower also seems to ship quite quickly from what I've heard and offer fairly good advice on clubna-t.com, also your going to have to replace quite a few things anyway either during the build or once your up and running for a while so you might aswell get the cheaper kit and source your own oil lines and/or turbo further down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 the xs one in the pic is the revised braced manifold too so you shouldnt have any issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I hear bad things and you need lots more than just the turbo kit, clutch, ecu and injectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 That's the same kit FOSTA had on his NA-T but odviously for a GE model. I had to reface all his manifold for him. There was a 2mm variation in the face from 1 end to the other. It need to be flat or it won't seal. The downpipe also didn't fit. I won't go into how he got it to fit, you best ask him lol. The wastegate kept sticking and the oil lines are very poor too. If you can be arsed with all the fabrication then it does the job. I had the GT45 kit on my blue supra. Had a nightmare fitting it but after it was all fitted it wasn't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Surely this makes the whifbitzs kit even more of a front runner unless you piece it together yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtin90 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) You can actually get the xs power kit from xs power uk through ebay and you can make a "best offer" for the item. To be honest it does seem like a very good price. I personally havent tried any of their components myself though a lot of members are currently running their na-t kits both on here and club na-t with no problems. However it does seem like their kits some fabricating to fit perfectly and they do require a new set of quality braided oil lines. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2JZGTE-single-Turbo-Conversion-2JZ-450-550WHP-Kit-/290503449804?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a35adccc Edited April 16, 2012 by abtin90 Didnt realise you could make an offer for it on ebay till now (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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