Nodalmighty Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 If only Toyota had spent the same amount of time testing and developing the brakes and throttle pedals on their other cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Reminds me of an old article I read on the Rover K series engines, and how the tuners all re-introduced the problems that the K series was _specifically_ designed to resolve. For example, stronger head bolts might sound like a good idea, but they increased the thermal stress in certain areas...something like that, it was a while ago. IMHO the K series is and was a right lemon, the only reliable ones seemed to be the BTCC engines Judd developed, which went very well and seemed fairly reliable, but they did spend months virtually re engineering the things. I have yet to see an independent engine dyno print out with correction factors for one these 1000 BHP Supra engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I have yet to see an independent engine dyno print out with correction factors for one these 1000 BHP Supra engines How about the old 'drag strip' dyno. 1600kg car, 8.2 ET @178mph is not possible with less than 1500 hp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I don't know anything about drag racing, but I can't believe that no one has had a 2JZ-GTE on a proper dyno. Maybe they don't want to quote the results Anyway, I thought your company were getting the dyno going at work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I don't know anything about drag racing, but I can't believe that no one has had a 2JZ-GTE on a proper dyno. Maybe they don't want to quote the results Anyway, I thought your company were getting the dyno going at work? Do you mean an engine dyno Chris? Gas Motorsport in Australia have had some good results on an engine dyno with the 2JZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I don't know anything about drag racing, but I can't believe that no one has had a 2JZ-GTE on a proper dyno. Maybe they don't want to quote the results Anyway, I thought your company were getting the dyno going at work? We still do intend to get an Engine dyno in a some time dude, so who knows we may get some results quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Do you mean an engine dyno Chris? Gas Motorsport in Australia have had some good results on an engine dyno with the 2JZ. Yes, on an engine dyno. Have you any links to their efforts Lee? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Here is one 2041hp 3.2L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 1100hp 2JZ engine for a boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 GAZ racing dont muck about, have a look at the the build of their 2JZ power boat X-static Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 ETS are doing some nice prices, this T6 Gt47 kit looks superb value for anyone considering going large. http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/Toyota-Supra-Turbo-Kits/c6449_6480_6511/p17587/ETS-93-98-Toyota-MK4-Supra-GT47-Turbo-Kit/product_info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Might be a good price but to fit it you have to remove and go without the front anti roll bar.... LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 Might be a good price but to fit it you have to remove and go without the front anti roll bar.... LOL. Well spoted, i wonder if other T6 kits are the same, Full race dont mention it. http://www.full-race.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=839_872_1092_1099&products_id=1762 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Might be a good price but to fit it you have to remove and go without the front anti roll bar.... LOL. WTF:blink: So you can make the car go faster, but at the expense of poorer handling. Suppose it's okay for a drag car, but wouldn't want that on a road car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I would be very unhappy about a rad cowl deletion, and it sounds like the viscous has to go for some reason, whatever, they say a Flexolite fan.... But no front anti roll bar will be the makings of some "interesting" handling characteristics Still, bigger must be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 WTF:blink: So you can make the car go faster, but at the expense of poorer handling. Suppose it's okay for a drag car, but wouldn't want that on a road car. Even a drag race car needs a bit of chassis control if you need to make any corrections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 WTF:blink: So you can make the car go faster, but at the expense of poorer handling. Suppose it's okay for a drag car, but wouldn't want that on a road car. Does seem odd, ok for the yanks i guess with all there straight roads, ive emailed Full Race to ask if it has to be removed for there kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 If it's not a ridiculous intrusion into the region the ARB sits you could always have a custom one bent up, to miss whatever the problem is, and also you could then have a choice of stiffness in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 i know the oil talk is done and dusted all the heat/pressure waffle but just wonderd why nobody seemed to mention dry sump conversion! i heard and i don't actualy believe it but there isn't supposed to be a single dry sump supra in the U.K due to cost and technical issues! is this correct?? would allow good temp control larger volumes and of course would be cool as f#ck!! I'm new to this supra building as i'm only starting mine in the new year but it's something i thought of if i was going time attack or the likes! long duration high rev applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 There's nothing very difficult about dry sumping a *JZ series engine. As they seem fairly immune to oil surge and oil temperature control isn't any big deal the only real advantage would be to lower the engine in the chassis, but that would mean a smaller flywheel and bespoke starter arrangements. The stock Getrag gearbox would limit just how much lower you could get the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) 2JZ-GTE Dry Sump Kit Edited December 24, 2010 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 i know the oil talk is done and dusted all the heat/pressure waffle but just wonderd why nobody seemed to mention dry sump conversion! i heard and i don't actualy believe it but there isn't supposed to be a single dry sump supra in the U.K due to cost and technical issues! is this correct?? would allow good temp control larger volumes and of course would be cool as f#ck!! I'm new to this supra building as i'm only starting mine in the new year but it's something i thought of if i was going time attack or the likes! long duration high rev applications. Leon Greens drag car is dry sumped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 Well spoted, i wonder if other T6 kits are the same, Full race dont mention it. http://www.full-race.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=839_872_1092_1099&products_id=1762 I just had a email back from full race, the anti roll bar stays in place with there kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I take it you're joining the T6 ranks then JP? If so welcome to the fold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 Not yet, changing to a T4 twin gate setup for now, i might even go down in turbo size, like the look of the new GT42r-7275. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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