Miguel Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 your here to give me a hard time with this aint you thanks though mate i missed it completely. Not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted June 5, 2010 Author Share Posted June 5, 2010 If I was putting an NA-T kit together I'd go for a PHR NA-T manifold, downpipe and Turbo-IC pipe with a Garrett GT35R turbo. That being the case, I would fit 550cc/680cc injectors, fuel pump, GReddy/HKS FMIC, oil cooler and rather than the Emanage Ultimate I would fit a standalone ECU. thanks for your input nic im grateful, i do still have a bank balance i do have a rough limit but if it exceeds it exceeds ha ha what can i do about that. i have seen this kit from boost logic http://www.boostlogic.com/xcart/product.php?productid=91&cat=19&page=1 obviously i need the emanage and a good map but i think this could be a good starting point me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted June 5, 2010 Author Share Posted June 5, 2010 roughly whats $5249.00 converted to £'s.. that stage 2 boost logic kit seems to be the one reeling me in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 roughly whats $5249.00 converted to £'s.. that stage 2 boost logic kit seems to be the one reeling me in £3602 at today's exchange rate If you can afford it, a standalone will be an absolutely massive advantage when it comes to getting the most out of the setup. Piggybacks on the NA ECU seriously limit the potential should you want to go for more power (which WILL happen, no matter what you say now ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 That stage 2 BL looks like a nice kit tbh, id go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted June 5, 2010 Author Share Posted June 5, 2010 £3602 at today's exchange rate bargain i think . i may have to enquire during next week. do we have any views on the precision stage 2 kit? seems really good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Check out Bromy for details on his BL setup. He's one of two people here that have acheived decent and reliable power with an NA-T. EDIT - nevermind, couldn't find anything useful in his posts anymore, but it did make some decent power, about 500-550bhp IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted June 5, 2010 Author Share Posted June 5, 2010 That stage 2 BL looks like a nice kit tbh, id go with that. i think im going to jamie seems really good. im really concerned about the autobox, with a kit like that is it going to rip the box to pieces or is that where the mapping and that comes into play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 i think im going to jamie seems really good. im really concerned about the autobox, with a kit like that is it going to rip the box to pieces or is that where the mapping and that comes into play? I would get some coolers on it and just run it at full power, if the box breaks then deal with it, but thats me, you might want to keep the boost down a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted June 5, 2010 Author Share Posted June 5, 2010 Check out Bromy for details on his BL setup. He's one of two people here that have acheived decent and reliable power with an NA-T. thanks you have been a huge help too, my brain is slowly scrambling and im getting excited but i must resist rushing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 The BL kit, or any other kit for that matter, would save you a lot of dramas. Yes it looks costly initially, but it takes out the hassle involved with self fabrication which can work out costlier in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve spedd Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 He is only talking about running stock 330cc injectors mate, that will limit before anything else. thats what limited me @ 0.6 bar on the lower compression i was seein injector duty cycles of 99% AFR's were ok but i now have 650's in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted June 5, 2010 Author Share Posted June 5, 2010 I would get some coolers on it and just run it at full power, if the box breaks then deal with it, but thats me, you might want to keep the boost down a bit. yeah lowering the boost sounds good if it blows the first time. im going to give boost logic a bell next week and go from there, pick there brains on a few things. Its still early days but its going to be good and hopefully wont be money down the drain and i do achieve nice results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 im going to give boost logic a bell next week and go from there, pick there brains on a few things. Its still early days but its going to be good and hopefully wont be money down the drain and i do achieve nice results. I don't mean to sound like a killjoy, but would recommend you spend a good few more days/weeks reading up on the forum here and doing your best to fully understand how to go about turbo charging. The NA-T club (though some of the info there is incredibly inaccurate), supraforums (US and Australia) also offer good information and some seperate experience from this club, so read those places too before making a purchase. Planning the entire package is essential before making the jump to buying. Turbo kit choice is just one part of the package, think about the rest before making a decision, a wrong choice could be costly. The best bit of advice I can offer is to continue asking questions and to keep an open mind to responses. Before you make any purchase consider every aspect of the conversion and make sure you have the full package of mods decided before buying any part of it. i.e. - Turbo kit - ECU - Injectors & fuel supply system in general - Target BHP - Future BHP plans (always plan for this!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve spedd Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 great advice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 great advice... Any pictures and details of your setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Blah Blah Blah (in a good way ) Very good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve spedd Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Any pictures and details of your setup? only old ones Jamie. I did mine about 3 years ago now. Since i have leart lots and have bought another NA engine and am currently rebuilding bits... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Just do a TT conversion, it'll be cheaper for the power goals you have in mind:d Spot on advice Daryl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 That's still true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 (edited) good morning guys, my headache has now cleared so time for another one. got a car meet at 12 at halfway house should be fun. i am getting my head around what needs doing slowly, mechanically it will be a breeze but the ecu choice and gauges etc i have no idea. I am looking forward to this when the time comes and its one big learning curve for me, so i do expect to get stuck in places. to be honest i think the boost logic kit seems very good value for money and most parts are in the kit, need to research there oil lines as i know this is a factor in the build too. hopefully the na-t boys on here will advise me too, davey001, steve spedd and dr_jekyl as above i know tt conversion is miles cheaper, but i want something different and the bhp figures can be good if done correctly..... i would appreciate it if we dont mention the tt conversion anymore as its going to scramble my brain. Edited June 6, 2010 by Rob_Mitchell (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 as above i know tt conversion is miles cheaper, but i want something different and the bhp figures can be good if done correctly..... i would appreciate it if we dont mention the tt conversion anymore as its going to scramble my brain. Or ruin your nice shiney bay:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 Or ruin your nice shiney bay:p oi your meant to keep quiet about that!! but your so right lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 ill just pop in and say , (going on an erly comment in the thread) if you do decid eto lower the compression stick with a stock na head gasket and slide a set ot gte pistons in. for reasons m_life explaind before this is the only way to lower compression. a thicker h/g is a botch glad you are going for it , im glad i did , best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 if the uprated head gasket and bolts are included in the kit surely its its best to use them? cheers craig im going to need the good luck lol my aim is to have everything needed by oct/november time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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