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Suggestions for engine swap (V10, V8, V6, etc)


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I would say 2UR-GSE from the new 5.0 V8 Lexus ISF (300KW out of the box) + Add a supercharger on the top of that, you will be laughing :D

Also the tranny for this is an 8 Speed Automatic with good fuel efficient :)

 

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Twin turbo V10 gallardos are very fast in the states these days so maybe it would be nice to have something similar in a supra? :)

 

Not sure what the differences are between the audi S6 V10 engine and the gallardo engine but an audi V10 isn't that expensive anymore. Then of course there is the mighty bmw V10 engine found in the M5 and M6.

 

Fitment might be a problem though. :eyebrows:

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If the SRT-10 Engine can fit i think that would be awesome. Something i would seriously consider.

 

The 8.3L block(only 500 pounds) from the 03-06 Models are lighter then the Supes Engine i thought? 525 ft. pounds of torque straight on tap would be damn sweet. Supercharge them and you are laughing.

 

Someone tell me they would fit so i can buy the engine and tran setup im watching on Ebay..:D

 

I'd like a V10 in a Supe.

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If the SRT-10 Engine can fit i think that would be awesome. Something i would seriously consider.

 

The 8.3L block(only 500 pounds) from the 03-06 Models are lighter then the Supes Engine i thought? 525 ft. pounds of torque straight on tap would be damn sweet. Supercharge them and you are laughing.

 

Someone tell me they would fit so i can buy the engine and tran setup im watching on Ebay..:D

 

I'd like a V10 in a Supe.

 

As mentioned above it doesn't fit, the work needed would be on the scale of Ryan G's engine fit, perhaps more! Had another look into this yesterday as there is a viper engine and box up on the SXOC for £4k :blink:

 

The complete engine is *much* heavier than a 2JZ.

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As mentioned above it doesn't fit, the work needed would be on the scale of Ryan G's engine fit, perhaps more! Had another look into this yesterday as there is a viper engine and box up on the SXOC for £4k :blink:

 

The complete engine is *much* heavier than a 2JZ.

 

but think of the torque of that bad boy :eyebrows:

 

i went out in in a dodge truck which has 1 fitted (forget the model)

and by god that thing shifted!

 

ill put up pics after

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The complete engine is *much* heavier than a 2JZ.

 

Do you have any weight figures at hand?

 

The torque on these are awesome indeed, and would make up for the extra weight imo.

 

Would the corvette LS7 engine fit?

 

What would be the most complete Chevvy block that has been known to fit then?

 

Those suggesting the V12's- Which ones?

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Do you have any weight figures at hand?

 

Would the corvette LS7 engine fit?

 

What would be the most complete Chevvy block that has been known to fit then?

 

The viper engine alone is 330kg, that's just the block and heads :Pling:

 

The LS7 would be a great swap, although some work is needed to redesign the sump and oil pickup as the stock one is right where the supra subframe is.

 

There are only 3 Chevy lumps I know of being fitted to a supra, all are 'old school' ones. LT's and older. I don't know of anyone that's fitted an LS lump, but I'm sure someone might have somewhere!

 

LS lump fits in a RX7 so im sure it will fit in a Supra.

 

Yep, as above, it'll fit size wise but needs a *lot* of work.

 

How tuneable are the LS lumps? I want one strong enough for scope to supercharge.

 

I want to get away from lag, in keeping with the power of a single turbo.

 

Hugely tuneable. LS1 is the older lump and has the most available aftermarket parts, but it'd be best to choose a good base unit as there are massive variations in the spec dependant on what they were originally fitted to. The LS7 also has a lot of tuning potential, and with both lumps strap on superchargers are available for relatively little money and no bottom end work needed. However, many of the SC kit suppliers claims seem to be a bit unrealistic.

 

Jamie would be best to answer about the LS2 block as he had one in the Monaro.

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One other thing to mention - don't even consider this unless you have at least £10k to spend (£15k+ would be more realistic). The fabrication and engineering work required is substantial. The electrical work isn't to be overlooked either, the loom splicing alone was quoted at £1.2k for an LS1.

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Well the LS7 is from the Z06 is one i was looking at before the SRT-10 Engine tbh.

 

The torque in standard form i think is 'only' around 475lbs.ft. Not exactly awesome from 7 Litres, but i imagine these blocks have quite alot of scope for future power upgrades.

 

In truth, i would be happy with 500lbs.ft figure, with the sound of those V8's with torque straight on tap.

 

I wish the single route excited me, then i wouldn't have to pursue such an awkward route. But imagine the fun once it is done.:D

 

I already have the fitter - Just need to find the Engine and tranmission.

 

If the transmission tunnel of the LS7 can be made to fit, i think that would be a better mate then the Getrag.

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I'd go with £15k as a base, Darryl.

 

You're looking at a good £4k-5k for a an LSx engine (maybe £10k for an LS7). Starter motor, alternator, bracketing for everything, fabricating mounts, gearbox adaptation, throttle cables, wiring, electrics, plumbing, sump work, etc, etc.

 

Then that's before we think of ECU choices, etc.

Scary amounts.

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I already have the fitter - Just need to find the Engine and tranmission.

 

If the transmission tunnel of the LS7 can be made to fit, i think that would be a better mate then the Getrag.

 

Don't underestimate the work required to fabricate the new engine mounts, gearbox mounts, buidl the prop shaft and then balance it all. It's serious and delicate work and with the levels of torque is strictly motorsports specialists only. Don't forget the diff and drive shafts. An auto or NA one will not cut it.

 

I'm not trying to teach you to suck egss or anything, it's just that most people who ask about this (me included as it turns out) don't know just how complex the conversion is.

 

I'd go with £15k as a base, Darryl.

 

You're looking at a good £4k-5k for a an LSx engine (maybe £10k for an LS7). Starter motor, alternator, bracketing for everything, fabricating mounts, gearbox adaptation, throttle cables, wiring, electrics, plumbing, sump work, etc, etc.

 

Then that's before we think of ECU choices, etc.

Scary amounts.

 

By a very long way the most cost effective way of converting is to buy a 'cut out'. This means the engine, trans, loom and ECU from the car. The lucky thing is that many of the LS engined cars have the very strong T56 6spd fitted as standard. It has about the same power handling as the supra 6spd.

 

The complex parts are mating it to the supra chassis, clearing the subframe & steering rack, and then connecting it to the Supra dash loom.

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