dr_jekyll Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 hey all ive decided to swallow it and buy a 6 speed. (pending credit card aproval ) just wondering if anybody on this club has ever goosed one? i know they are chuck norris strong but if they do brake id like to know what it takes to kill them . love and cuddles craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardod Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Requires allot, someone here in Holland broke one by starting the engine and shifting without clutch as his clutch line broke and he was to lazy to wait for someone to tow him. Took a while before it broke tho, i even believe it got him 40km back home, that is without using the clutch >.>. Also read that they shift allot harder and feel way more clunky then the pure smoothness of the w58. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 One missed shift can take a syncro out and the skyline getrag is known for cracking the centre section that holds the bearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardod Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I believe the supra getrag is way and way stronger then the skyline one. Skyline getrags tend to break on stock power output, 2 of my friends had that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I believe the supra getrag is way and way stronger then the skyline one. Skyline getrags tend to break on stock power output, 2 of my friends had that problem. Thats because they hook up so well the section that breaks is the caseing and thats the same, BTW if your mate knew how to change gear using a clutch makes no difference, I doubt Ive hardly ever used a clutch up or down a bike box at a trackday !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Welsh-Stealth- Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 hey all ive decided to swallow it and buy a 6 speed. (pending credit card aproval ) just wondering if anybody on this club has ever goosed one? i know they are chuck norris strong but if they do brake id like to know what it takes to kill them . love and cuddles craig woop woop can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Good choice! hope this helps you out, Getrag 6 speed transmission (V160 & V161) The Getrag used in the Supra is the Getrag 233, 6 speed gearbox, which is made by Getrag in Germany . Type - 233 Torque capacity - to 490 NM (361 ft/lb) Centre distance - 85mm Weight - 51.0 kg Factory - Nissan GTR 6 spd, Toyota Supra NA 6 spd, Toyota Supra TT 6 spd Gears - V160 (3.827,2.360,1.685,1.312,1.000,0.793, Rev 3.280) - May 1993 to May 1996 Gears - V161 (3.724,2.246,1.541,1.205,1.000,0.818, Rev 3.192) - June 1996 to July 2002 NOTE: Although only rated to 361 ft/lbs by Getrag, this gearbox is used in cars putting out up to 600 ft/lbs of torque, but as with any gearbox, the more you exceed the rated torque capability, the quicker the gearbox will wear out, or if the torque is too high, something will break. On the street, its almost impossible to break the Getrag gearbox as wheelspin will occur before the breaking point is reached. On the drag strip with sticky tyres, it is possible to break the Getrag, if running 500rwkw or more. Normally the syncros will give up the ghost before something breaks as they take the main punishment during gear changes on the high HP cars. good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
add heywood Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 When I bought my car the 4th synchro had gone. When fixed it cost over £1800 as they are complicated boxes to work on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 16, 2011 Author Share Posted October 16, 2011 hmm so they do brake. but thers nothing stronger out there so its what ill have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 hey all ive decided to swallow it and buy a 6 speed. (pending credit card aproval ) just wondering if anybody on this club has ever goosed one? i know they are chuck norris strong but if they do brake id like to know what it takes to kill them . love and cuddles craig Your going to eat you current gearbox? That's a bit extreme isn't it. As for the 6 speed box people call it notchy and crude but I think the changes make it feel solid. Apart from a rattly flywheel I don't think I can fault the box but I haven't used it anger on a track so can't comment on that. Miss shift and it is going to get very expensive, it will more than likely be cheaper to get a replacement box than to fix the one you lunched as has been said they are fiddley to work on. If you muller a gear hope its fifth as this is the easiest to get to as the getrag is a four speed box with 5 and 6 bolted on to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 may start leaning back towards a r154 if missing a shift can be that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Unless you are drag racing the car you should be fine, they seem able to take a fair bit of grief. Race changes on any synchromesh gearbox will seriously reduce the life of the synchros, and generally give it a hard time, but as synchro boxes go it's a very tough one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 may start leaning back towards a r154 if missing a shift can be that bad. For anything upto small singles, the R154 makes alot of sense. Even expensive ones cost upto £1k (they can regularly be had for circa £500 though), a v160/161 being £2k plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attero Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 There was one guy on here who managed to blow a massive hole in the box. BUT... they are as strong as they come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 i will not be looking for more horsepower 500 is ample for track/circuit driving . so i think the 154 should be fine after more research . ill try one and if that blows then im left with only one option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leet45single Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Unfortunately I think my 4th gear is on it's way out, it's happened twice now drag racing. At high revs it just didn't in-gauge when shifting into 4th. At road speeds it's fine still but like others have said drag racing put a big strain on the syncro, and it seems the 4th is the most common to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 And I thought the Getrag was the holy grail of big power boxes. Theres someone selling a Tremec on Driftworks as well, T51 I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 And I thought the Getrag was the holy grail of big power boxes. Theres someone selling a Tremec on Driftworks as well, T51 I believe. For road cars, the V160 is probably even tougher than the Tremec, though the Tremec box was probably designed with higher torque in mind than the Getrag. With the possible exception of some supercars and Hypercars, the Getrag box is as tough as they come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Hmm, the old American Muncie "rock crusher" boxes from the late sixties and early seventies would take some serious torque and abuse, if 4 speeds and a change like shaking the lever of a one armed bandit that had fallen off a cliff and into the sea for a few years was acceptable I had one in my seriously modded big block 1970 Corvette and I never managed to break it. (Most everything else went wrong the POS though ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 hmm, the old american muncie "rock crusher" boxes from the late sixties and early seventies would take some serious torque and abuse, if 4 speeds and a change like shaking the lever of a one armed bandit that had fallen off a cliff and into the sea for a few years was acceptable i had one in my seriously modded big block 1970 corvette and i never managed to break it. (most everything else went wrong the pos though ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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