j80leo Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 grey or black ish looking not brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Back to doubting Thomas we go Sorry fella, i have to concur, J spec tubbies just don't have the flow at 1.25, they might at 1.5;) but would put in so much heat you would loose power, + AFAIK grey injectors are J spec to, think maybe the RR is set up for customer satisfaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markie Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I agree. Mine is running 1.4 and has been for ages. I have noticed that too much aceleration it start to slow in acceleration, but if you catch the boost right it pulls so much better than when the foot is nailed to the floor and tubbies almost hitting over 1.4. I must say though, maybe its just mine but they are built very well as had no problems at all running this boost. Mind you I am asmost hoping they give up the ghost so it forces my lazy ass to upgrade as I keep saying I will but never get around to it - Typical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Markie, yours a UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Markie has a VVTi 6sp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I thought so Is 1.4 acceptable on the VVTi turbos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I wouldn't. There's probably no point anyway, what with the extra heat . . blah blah blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markie Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Yeah, like I said, they have been boosting at that for ages. But as mentioned I think the extra heat/boost does effect the power. 1.2 ish BAR is probably the peak performance on them. I only notice it when I put the foot down, but if I stay at about 1.2 it seems to pull better. Get the feeling of bogging down at the 1.4ish mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Mine made estimated 429fwhp (around 360rwhp) on stock J-spec turbos at 1.25bar. So 435hp may be possible. With following mods: Stock turbos running in parallel Brand new short block Rebuilt/flowed head by CW HKS 256/264 cams Stock 440cc injectors (with FPR upping the fuel pressure). Emanage Exhaust, blah, blah As a comparison on the same dyno with the GT35R it made 542fwhp. http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9441/dynozp8.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Wayney me ol'son sorry to hear your turbos have blown. I didnt realise thats why you was asking for advice the other evening. Like i said there is no RIGHT answer in the question 'hybrids vs singles'. Its all down to personal opnion and preferance. In your case a young entrepreneur with plenty of cash id say go down the big single route. As you have mentioned before you trail along with friends who own Pagini Zonders and Ferrari f50's so its best you fork out some of your loose change on a good street single turbo kit. Hybrids and stock turbos will limit you in your BHP figures since most use the stock manifold which also increase EGT's etc... (correct me if i am wrong) Why not go down the big single route? Make sure you fork out on a good fuel set up and good supporting mod's i.e uprated intercooler, clutch and maybe some uprated internals. There are lots of examples to follow on the board... Plenty of members have gone single, some have faced problems others have since been ok. Id say take the plunge...Who knows you could be our next 'Jamiep'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 In fact they're like 20bhp past their limit and into the realms of impossible. Only if he hasn't increased the fuel pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j80leo Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Mine made estimated 429fwhp (around 360rwhp) on stock J-spec turbos at 1.25bar. So 435hp may be possible. With following mods: Stock turbos running in parallel Brand new short block Rebuilt/flowed head by CW HKS 256/264 cams Stock 440cc injectors (with FPR upping the fuel pressure). Emanage Exhaust, blah, blah As a comparison on the same dyno with the GT35R it made 542fwhp. http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9441/dynozp8.jpg thanks for for that nic needed some back up as i cant see chris making the dyno faster for people as it does not affect him at all he still gets payed for the work!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Only if he hasn't increased the fuel pressure. Indeed. I said as much back in post 38 of this very thread. Mine made estimated 429fwhp (around 360rwhp) on stock J-spec turbos at 1.25bar. On stock j-spec injectors at stock pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I'm still going with the " customer friendly RR" theory;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I'm still going with the " customer friendly RR" theory;) Didn't Homer get a similar headline figure from SRR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Didn't Homer get a similar headline figure from SRR? Thats interesting, everything i have heard and also form my own experience of SRR, has been just about right, or even on the Conservative side for most cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Indeed. I said as much back in post 38 of this very thread. So do we know if he's running stock pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j80leo Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I'm still going with the " customer friendly RR" theory;) never mind;) does not really matter as i am going single over winter might even get a good 650bhp with a customer friendly RR lol;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 oh well, at least you will have other hybrids to compare to at SRR!! But really, RRs and dyno sheets are more for you to compare once changes have been made... and pub banter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j80leo Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 oh well, at least you will have other hybrids to compare to at SRR!! But really, RRs and dyno sheets are more for you to compare once changes have been made... and pub banter! yes all pub talk totally different on the roads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Homed DID have a very similar figure to Nic's at SRR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I have had first hand experience with hybrids, with Supratoys old car, running 550's and apexi power fc, Cost a lot of money well over 3k, and he was never happy with it, Raced him with his J-Specs...550's, beat me by two car lengths everytime, Raced him with hybrids, I beat him with a car length everytime And I beat him on the same rolling road by 0.5bhp;) thats not to say hybrids are completely sh*te and a waste of time! Their just...well a waste of time;) Got to agree and I was at the same RR day. I don't think Vinny was running them at their boost limit though was he? IMO decent hybrids (not all hybrids are created equal) are only better from the point of view of longevity at higher boost figures. Not worth the money. Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayney Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 wayney you'd get more than 400 out of a pair of hybrids, with larger injetors and aftermarket ECU. Hey mate just wondered how much bhp are you pushing from your hybrids at 1.4 bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Wayney, PM Heckler (Si). He has a brilliant Hybrid setup with EManage Ultimate and 550's I think mapped by Ian C. A real machine that makes good use of Hybrids. Sorry haven't read the whole thread in case he has replied already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayney Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 i started of stock, "well except a body kit" i then went bpu, then from advice went hybrids, if i could go back and start again, i would not muck about with hybrids, as i had so many problems with air leaks (or pipes blowing off) i have now gone single and wish i had at the begining, but saying thati still have problems but not for long, (hopefully) As you stated you had alot of problems with your installation. Who done it for you? Also were they all rectified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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