Chiefgroover Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 You could try our pace notes system. Do a few laps and write down the corners with this system, and your passenger can call them out. e.g. corner severity 1 to 5 corner type (if applicable) opens, tightens etc, distance when needed in yards crest to corner distance etc here is an example. Easy 1 left into immeadiate 3 right - tightens, straight flat 200yrds into 4 right opens, crest 50 yrds, 200yrds 1 right - flat open, 2 left caution - tightens, into 5 right into immeadiate left hairpin etc you get the idea, you can modify the system to suit your own style takes the mystery out of the track :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 TBH with the amount of traffic on the road its just not worth going for quick times during the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 chief : I'm used to those type of pace notes already... I've been doing road rallying for the past three years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Great stuff Aji, hope you get a super lap time :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 Hey guys, can you PM me your email addreses so i can send you an invite to our Ring Junkies Smartgroup Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 my email is : [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Check your mail guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Bobbeh, managed a 9m15sec time before the power steering pump overheated and died. I love it here. I have found an excellent workshop ran by a race engineer who can look after your cars when u r here. TTE - True torque engineering at Hauptstrabe 19 D-53539 Zermullen which is on the B257, follow the signs for Mullenbach its a couple of miles on the left. He can do any wheel alignment work handy if u need to adjust camber to cope etc. He has worked for Porsche, VW etc raced corvettes, you name it. I would never take a Supra around the ring again without a power steering oil cooler thats for sure, thank God it went as I entered the pits. I was amazed at how slow the bikes are, they really hold you up on the corners. I was warned about stripped out golfs, 911 and M3, all which were no problem to beat, German reg or not, except the semi race prepared 911 which left me sitting in particular the black and yellow one driven by a fit blonde, I lost sight of it after 2km. I will be back here, everyone is friendly, craic in the pits was amazing on Sunday, so for race and social this is the place to go. Feel sorry for the local guy in the 966 Turbo who i passed 8 corners before the end and pulled away from on the straight, Marc the motor engineer who is fixing my Supra knows him and is torturing him that he got beat by a UK guy on his first weekend in a Toyota lmao!! I did u fellow Supra owners proud. People like Supra,s here its like u r exclusive as 911,s are in abundance! Will write more when i get home. My Thanks to Matt, who sat with me, turned green and looked quite unwell and managed not to throw up on the ring lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Good stuff fella Please to hear you're 'represenin' 9:15 is nice! Power steering problems?! Thats weird, I had no probs at all - maybe I wasnt driving fast enough Know what you mean though, Jap metal is 'rare' out there compares to the countless 911's and M3's you see, the Supra always stands out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Maybe next time I wil get a better time now that i know there are markers to show you the turn in and sometimes apex points. Will never do the ring again with both P.S. and engine oil coolers, as the German supra owners I know think its very dangerous without them anyway its cheap to do !. By the way the DBA discs and Endless CCX pads I got from Envy performed perfect the whole time. 911's suck, they are like piles, sooner or later every asshole has one around the ring lmao! When are you going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmic Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 911's suck, they are like piles, sooner or later every asshole has one around the ring lmao! PMSL!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I'm going Next Friday m8, theres about 25 of us I think, bikers and car drivers, should be a great weekend. Did you get any pics/footage? Dont laugh at all the porkers, there are plenty of GT3 RSs lapping in the 7 minute mark!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 The Germans think I am brain dead for going on the ring with no power steering cooler. They refuse to even watch me without it. I suppose for about £100 they are an excellent mod. I left my car there with friends who will fit my cooler, so I'll go back for more either this weekend or next. I did see a few of the stripped out and caged porkers on race rubber, man they are quick, but if you did the same with a Supra the German engineers reckon it would be better so for next year they are intending to make a race Supra to compete and win. 90% of bikers are an obstical on the ring for fast car drivers :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 How were you going round, lap after lap after lap? Or did you take breaks? Like I said previous, I had no issues at all m8 but I did rest the car after each lap pretty much. Why is the power steering going to get pressured more than any other driving? General engine bay heat? I thought the slower you went having to move larger wheels would cause it more stress. Yeah, the previous lap record holder for a few years was that Blitz Supra which did it in 7:21, so just point them in that direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Bob its all down to heat, high engine RPM, loads of steering and the small capacity of the system. When I came in and mine started to pack up I checked the temp with my snap on infrared device which told me it was at 144 degrees, any wonder it failed!. I had no issues either then all of a sudden it stopped! after which it was almost impossible to turn a left hand bend, so if it goes, its a trailer job. Toyota Europe have bugger all steering parts in stock and all has to come from Japan at the moment so you dont want to go looking. Actually they quote you 2 days from Brussels and then when you enquire on the 2nd day they tell you a different story and its a week from Japan. Phone then and complain to Toyota Germany and the guy admits that its a lame setup. Toyota Europe are going to get some ear bashing from me next week, I did them proud on the ring and they messed me about. There is a local Toyota dealer to the ring, who's door i shall not darken again, IMO they really know how to try and take advantage of a tourist. Fortunately i clicked on to this before they got too far into me. I did single laps and then at the end I did a double without having to que, then the pumps internal plastic bits melted, and also the seals in the rack. AFAIAC it could happen to any fast moving Supra. Saw what i think was the new Supra testing, pushing a Viper up there straight. After my experience with Toyota this week I am sorry i didn't let all the tyres down with a valve lifter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 here we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Cool, pic, I know that corner (I think), thats the bend just before the 2nd kaurrsell? I'll keep an eye on things, I still think a good rest before runs is a must unless like you say additional coolers are installed Thanks for explaining the situation though. Also, having said that, you're running BPU and Im not which probably didnt help your temps. What was your engine temp gauge like after your runs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Engine temp looked the usual, maybe 2mm up but thats about it. As the pump is belt driven and the RPM's are high and your steering everything but straight most of the time I suppose its risky. I would never drive another Supra around the track without a rad on the PAS. The local German engineers advise this also. Might see you there next weekend, you never know :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Would be good Maybe have 2-4 UK6TT's in one place on the same weekend if Michel Lane turns up too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 I'm all up for an assault on 911's, they are so cheesy at the ring, bit like owning a bogey hanging from your nose lmao! Anyone with real big BHP going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Well only if Michel Lane takes his. Hes not going with our group, he said somehting about meeting us down there, so I dunno. AJI is going with 400+ bhp and some tuned RX7's are also coming. If you want to race something quick, how about my m8's 1000-1200 cc bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Big bikes are too dangerous if he drops it in front of you, i dont fancy going over the top of him. I have seen so much bike carnage on Sunday, about 15 in the ditch and thats just what I saw, I steer well clear of bikes, personally i'd ban them from the ring but thats just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Hahah You'd better not come next week then Someone died on the Saturday last year.. that ruined the day.. they closed the track for hours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Guy in a Z4 (i think) killed on the Sunday I was there, open top cars would be a great idea for the ring. Track wasn't closed that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Car death?! Thats not too common, usually its the bikers who get knocked off or just misjudge the corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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