TubbyTwo Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Sounds like an engine problem, I suggest dropping the block and replacing with a TT lump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 A friend of mine had a saxo vtr, I couldn't keep up with that, and it only had 110hp. Also, as I've said, the Mrs could out accelerate me in the Golf! Moral of the story is you drive like a homo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Moral of the story is you drive like a homo. I know Although NA's are slow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathWraith Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Not being funny but N/As are not that slow! I out ran a Clio RS200 once we got above 80 leptons. The Clio is very closely geared and despite being light er and only 20BHP down, is not designed for high speed pulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I've looked under the bonnet of mine a few times. I put some oil in it a month or so ago as it was off the stick. I have no idea what the plugs or leads are like (the king lead was still quite flexable). It goes well for an NA Auto lugging 1600kgs. My only grip is the auto box spends far to much of it's time off the TC lock. IT would feel quicker if the box slipped less. Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex2jz Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I hate these threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 why is my NA slow threads? lol. I like them because my NA isn't slow anymore BOOOOST your GE Or buy a GTE and hope it doesn't break £££££££ Or remove everything inside of it. seats included. go like a rocket then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I find the NA-T and NA_TT thing a bit meaning less, surely it's just either a T or a TT now? Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I find the NA-T and NA_TT thing a bit meaning less, surely it's just either a T or a TT now? Lyndon. Or an NFT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I find the NA-T and NA_TT thing a bit meaning less, surely it's just either a T or a TT now? Lyndon. i agree with the almighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikedjack Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I didn't realise N/A's we're that slow in all honesty! Thought they were around the 250hp mark making them about the same as a civic type r power to weight ish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Well it seems that there are differences between NAs then... My NA is definitely not slow - and that's about it. Of course you can't compare it with a 500bhp single... Regards, Herbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Well it seems that there are differences between NAs then... My NA is definitely not slow - and that's about it. Of course you can't compare it with a 500bhp single... Regards, Herbert Or a 400hp TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Or a 400hp TT Or a 130hp Ford Fiesta - In this case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I raced a type R civic and mine was a bit sluggish compared to it. id say the 200hp civic's are just as fast if not bit quicker off the mark. without a turbo the engine just doesnt pick up well atall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex2jz Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Only moment when i fell my NA is painfully slow is when accelerating at high speed, 50+ mph in 5th or 6th gear it barely pulls with the pedal to the floor, than it kind of slingshot's a bit after reaching a higher rpm 4k+. Kind of a turbo lag lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 NA lag is the worst lol because it never really kicks in. I'd love to put some high compression pistons in an NA and see how that fairs. Seen 11:1 pistons but never seen it built. In a stripped car I think that would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex2jz Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) NA lag is the worst lol because it never really kicks in. I'd love to put some high compression pistons in an NA and see how that fairs. Seen 11:1 pistons but never seen it built. In a stripped car I think that would be awesome. Yeah, NA lag means getting from standing still to barely moving lol. Modifying the GE engine, while leaving it naturally aspirated is useless IMO. I remember seeing a "300hp" NA somewhere, but he must invested a fortune and there is no more room from there. I really would rebuild my GE with TT pistons and get a quality NA-T kit like those supplied by Paul Whiffin. That would be a reliable 400-500hp i think, but it costs so much... Edited August 17, 2012 by alex2jz (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Yeah, NA lag means getting from standing still to barely moving lol. Modifying the GE engine, while leaving it naturally aspirated is useless IMO. I remember seeing a "300hp" NA somewhere, but he must invested a fortune and there is no more room from there. I really would rebuild my GE with TT pistons and get a quality NA-T kit like those supplied by Paul Whiffin. That would be a reliable 400-500hp i think, but it costs so much... V8, Cough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The best na way = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 NA lag is a myth all you have to do is drop it down a gear and your off, if I rag the nuts off mine it happily does 70 in 2nd 100 in 3rd and around 125 in 4th. I have no problem slapping it into 3rd at 60/70mph on a motorway now and then but obviously not all day everyday as it will somewhat shorten the life span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex2jz Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I'm staying true to the almighty I6. V8's don't work for me in the Supra, even though that LS7 would make it a beast. 500HP and only NA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I raced a type R civic and mine was a bit sluggish compared to it. id say the 200hp civic's are just as fast if not bit quicker off the mark. without a turbo the engine just doesnt pick up well atall Yes about that. Raced mine versus a civic type R. Mine was a little faster. But still while playing in different league than a TT a Type R civic is not the slowest hatch... And def. faster than a fiesta... And the NA can cope with it. Of course you can't compare my NA with a stock NA as it is (while still being NA) not stock at all. (View my build thread including dyno results in the german supra owners forums; did a xerd header, mine's VX-Rom ecu, decat and installing a high flow cat, hand made one of a kind exhaust system, TRD LSD, lightweight pulleys all around, ATI crank damper, a lot of new OEM parts , major engine rebuild, etc...) by the way... I could also do a build thread here sometime if somebody's interested. My project is known as the "NA_BPU"- Project in the german speaking area. I went on the track a gew weeks ago so there will also be some videos available soon. My mechanic who is (the only) supra specialist down here said that he never heard a 2JZ sound that mean For all the haters: Yes I could have converted it to NA_T or even TT for the silly money I've spent on this car. but: you will never be able to drive it legally down here due to austrian law. Regards, Herbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Yeah, NA lag means getting from standing still to barely moving lol. Modifying the GE engine, while leaving it naturally aspirated is useless IMO. I remember seeing a "300hp" NA somewhere, but he must invested a fortune and there is no more room from there. I really would rebuild my GE with TT pistons and get a quality NA-T kit like those supplied by Paul Whiffin. That would be a reliable 400-500hp i think, but it costs so much... If you want more power without the costs of FI then I can not recommend a V8 swap enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex2jz Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Yes about that. Raced mine versus a civic type R. Mine was a little faster. But still while playing in different league than a TT a Type R civic is not the slowest hatch... And def. faster than a fiesta... And the NA can cope with it. Of course you can't compare my NA with a stock NA as it is (while still being NA) not stock at all. (View my build thread including dyno results in the german supra owners forums; did a xerd header, mine's VX-Rom ecu, decat and installing a high flow cat, hand made one of a kind exhaust system, TRD LSD, lightweight pulleys all around, ATI crank damper, a lot of new OEM parts , major engine rebuild, etc...) by the way... I could also do a build thread here sometime if somebody's interested. My project is known as the "NA_BPU"- Project in the german speaking area. I went on the track a gew weeks ago so there will also be some videos available soon. My mechanic who is (the only) supra specialist down here said that he never heard a 2JZ sound that mean For all the haters: Yes I could have converted it to NA_T or even TT for the silly money I've spent on this car. but: you will never be able to drive it legally down here due to austrian law. Regards, Herbert Sounds like a very complex NA project. Have you dyno-ed the car after all these mods ? Really curios on the power output. If you want more power without the costs of FI then I can not recommend a V8 swap enough. I know mate, but for me a Supra isn't a Supra without the sound of the Turbo I6, it's just my fantasy lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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