Graham1984 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Maybe speaking to Ryan G would be a good idea as surely he can share some good points and has seen multiple dyno's covering all these ecu's at Bpu level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Stop looking for sub 13 second 1/4's then, simple I have no money tree, I have just been there done it a few too many times :-) When did i say we are looking for sub 13 1/4's???? - I said we was happy with our times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littler Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Power is a drug, the meets make it worse, BPU is adequate but who wants to be adequate This is something I thought, and said going single will sort it and I'll stop the power hunt, but looking at it when i get there I'll get use to it after a while and just hunt for more lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 When did i say we are looking for sub 13 1/4's???? - I said we was happy with our times Leave it alone then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 This is something I thought, and said going single will sort it and I'll stop the power hunt, but looking at it when i get there I'll get use to it after a while and just hunt for more lol If Jamie P started in a NA and ended up where he is now I say we all just quit while we are ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Leave it alone then Im only seeing what the options are - Is that such a bad thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Im only seeing what the options are - Is that such a bad thing? No not at all, go for it, I am going to bed lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 No not at all, go for it, I am going to bed lol I get moaned at when i dont use my brain and ask people for advice. When i do i still cant win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I get moaned at when i dont use my brain and ask people for advice. When i do i still cant win So me telling you it's I not i wont make you feel any better then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 So me telling you it's I not i wont make you feel any better then? Does that actually make any sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littler Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Does that actually make any sense? Yep it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Yep it does Its making sense now - Maybe im just a little slow. If you havent already guessed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Look Chris your post said which ECU and stay BPU, you go on to say you ( your dad ) is happy with the times at the pod, so what are your goals, what do you want to achieve ? If you stay with 440 injectors you will be very limited to what you can achieve over a stock ECU BPU, so you need to invest and that's the slippery slope I talk about, I was not trying to be purposely obtuse just be a little grounded so you dont make the mistakes I did in the past ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littler Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Look Chris your post said which ECU and stay BPU, you go on to say you ( your dad ) is happy with the times at the pod, so what are your goals, what do you want to achieve ? If you stay with 440 injectors you will be very limited to what you can achieve over a stock ECU BPU, so you need to invest and that's the slippery slope I talk about, I was not trying to be purposely obtuse just be a little grounded so you dont make the mistakes I did in the past ! Very sound advice from a man who's been there and done it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Look Chris your post said which ECU and stay BPU, you go on to say you ( your dad ) is happy with the times at the pod, so what are your goals, what do you want to achieve ? If you stay with 440 injectors you will be very limited to what you can achieve over a stock ECU BPU, so you need to invest and that's the slippery slope I talk about, I was not trying to be purposely obtuse just be a little grounded so you dont make the mistakes I did in the past ! He may upgrade to 550cc injectors i personally dont know - All i know is he's happy with bpu power but wants the most out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 He may upgrade to 550cc injectors i personally dont know - All i know is he's happy with bpu power but wants the most out of it. Like Dean said it can be an endless road, if his going with 550cc injectors then his going to need an ECU to manage the fuelling. The next step will be cams, then you will need a proper ECU. Most likely hybrids too so you can run higher boost. Hybrids alone will cost £1,400 then factor in the ECU and possibly cams an you are knocking onto £5k. Then at that point you are thinking, just a few more K's an I can have a small single, then the box limits you so you start looking at built box or 6 speed. Then the small single feels a little slow & you want a bigger single... This is generally what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 If you want to get the maximum out of the stock sequential turbos then the next step would be to fit longer duration/higher lift cams, higher flowing injectors (the stock 440cc injectors are close to their max duty at normal BPU levels) and some sort of mappable ECU. If you don't want to break the bank then I'd go with a piggyback GReddy Emanage Ultimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'd use a Apexi S-AFC. Maybe a bit old school but for managing a 550cc upgrade they are more than man enough. £50 - £100 second hand. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APEXi-S-AFC-Super-Air-Flow-Converter-A-61-/320941700274?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ab99db4b2 By far the best value for money ecu IMHO is the emerald K6. Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st3ven1 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 If you want to improve your quarter mile times, get a hi stall and oil cooler for the auto box. I would suggest this would get him into the 12's, with a little loss in everyday drive-ability. IMO, everything between running full BPU and going single is rarely worth doing. IE: Hybrids, cams, injectors, aftermarket ECU. As has been said, unless you are planing to go single, then stick at BPU and enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan294 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'd use a Apexi S-AFC. Maybe a bit old school but for managing a 550cc upgrade they are more than man enough. £50 - £100 second hand. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APEXi-S-AFC-Super-Air-Flow-Converter-A-61-/320941700274?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ab99db4b2 By far the best value for money ecu IMHO is the emerald K6. Lyndon. Do these still work on the J-Spec TT with no MAF? Are they quite straightforward to fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'd use a Apexi S-AFC. Maybe a bit old school but for managing a 550cc upgrade they are more than man enough. £50 - £100 second hand. Another option would be a 2nd hand Emanage blue which are similar money. I ran the stock turbos at 1.2bar for around 7 years with in256/ex264 cams, 680cc injectors and Emanage, the car was dynoed at 430hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbt Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Just letting everyone know this thread is nothing to do with me - I am happy with what I have and will not be wasting money on small bpu gains - Chris give this one up its not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedirtycat Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Just letting everyone know this thread is nothing to do with me - I am happy with what I have and will not be wasting money on small bpu gains - Chris give this one up its not happening haha. Does seem like crazy amounts of money for such small gains. I think the only people that have done these extra things are upgrading ready to put in a big single so I guess its not really a waste of money then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 kids ay to be fair your time and terminal are very good i have 520bhp auto single and i think i only got a 13.2 at 112mph, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraD06 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Id be interested in knowing the best ECU to go with aswell, Ive got no intention of going single but will be fitting 264 cams, timing gears and bigger injectors at some point. Would a Emanage Ultimate be good enough to controll this or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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