wewsupra Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 cant wait to see this come together. same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Someone on here was selling isf brake calipers and hebwas also talking about thinking of selling the engine. Now is that you? Regards, Herbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Was talking to Marty, he said it will be a slow process ; alot of research required on how to get this thing running sweet but he did mention a Syvecs might be an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dianebettybo Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 hi all iam thinking about haveing a lexus is200 but would like drop a 3liter twin turbo in a lexus is200 is it easy or not and do u no were who can do it ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-mkiv Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Holy Thread Hijack Batman!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Should make for one unique Supra. Subscribed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorglub Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Good idee but i m waiting the 1LR-GUE Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Well yesterday we got the engine into the bay for some measurements. We had done a lot of research before hand using the collision repair manuals to make sure the engine would fit with out any major surgery to the supra Chassis. Fit is actually quite good, with only some modification needed to rear member to allow us to place the engine and inch or 2 furthur back. http://2urgse-supra.herobo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/engin5.jpg http://2urgse-supra.herobo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/engin1.jpg The reason for this swap was more a personal one, as i am a bit of a tech freak. Power did not come into the equation, swapping any other v8 or building a big bhp 2jzgte motor wouldnt be as challenging. This project wont reach completion any time soon due to the technology used in this engine and the constraints of the infomation availabe for its contrrol and manipulation. To run the engine and gearbox using the OE electrics and ECM's EDU's is a no go. Lexus use a mixture of CANBUS and BEAN networks as well as some very advanced security options. These networks all rely on constant data flow between each other. Whilst CANBUS hacking was an option, BEAN is lexus own comms gateway which would need to be reverse engineered in order to manipulate it. Even a simple gearchange is relayed though these networks. The Control of the Transmisson may be possible still by directly contolling the valve body Solenoids etc etc but i will still be going with a manual geabox conversion. The engine is very advanced, and uses a lot of technology that will be common place in the Future. We have good old port injection i.e. injector placed in intake manifold, coupled with Direct Cylinder injection. Direct injection uses special injectors placed in the head which inject fuel under high pressure (up to 2000psi from mech pumps run of the inlet cams) directly into the cylinder during the Intake and compression Stroke. This allows for greater engine compression ratios (11.8:1 in this application) even in forced induction applications. Another advancement is VVTI-E. Although running normal dual VVT-I, dual VVT-IE is also used. The VVTIE units contain an electric motor so does not depend on oil pessure like VVT-I. Basically a motor spins at the same speed as the cam. To advance the cam, the motor spins faster, and to retard the cam its spins slower. These technology advancements all require new control and tuning concepts which are not that readily available on the market today, and so will require a lot of research on how the manufactures control them. Hopefully an ECU company will get on board with this to develop for the future too. My ramblings and technical research and swap is available here for anyone who wants to follow this project. http://2urgse-supra.herobo.com/ As said this will be a long term project so prepare for the long haul lol Marty Edit...need to fix my wonky R on the keyboard before any thing lol Edited June 17, 2012 by bondango (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Awesome Marty , hopefully will check it when i pop up later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I some how knew you would be behind this one Marty. Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I some how knew you would be behind this one Marty. Lyndon. lol i like a challenge, and have nothing penciled in to my spare time for the next few years so why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 That should be easy, it will only take a couple of hours....... Um, no. This is a bit of an epic idea, best car Toyota ever made with the best n/a powerplant they produce. AWESOMENESS. I'd say the LFA engine is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 Hey Marty Did you know Max Orido is running the IS-F Lexus V8 in his GT86 in D1GP FUPCwolLrsY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 Build thread http://www.tune86.com/ft-86-forum/17960-orido-manabu-d1-toyota-86 He is using a Motec M880, not too sure what the other box is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 The Syvecs guys reversed engineered the Nissan GTR, maybe this could be a another project for the S8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 The Syvecs guys reversed engineered the Nissan GTR, maybe this could be a another project for the S8 Yeah Orido removed the DI system (pumps removed from heads) and isnt controlling VVTIE (nowt plugged in) so waste of an m880... Ive a lot of the research started Wez, did drop Gareth an email but didnt reply. Pity though as DI will be used in most cars by 2016. Link scratched their heads for a few moments and said no chance cant hep and went back to controlling coal fires. Life racing coulda have applied there own systems but i dont run an F1 team. Adaptonic however are very interested and will be scoping an FT86 which uses the same DI system to get a better understanding of how the ECU contols the each DI EDU (only 8 injector contol signals, 1 Spill valve signal, 1 diagnostic, and 1 injector feed back signal - which isnt needed) per bank VVT-IE will be fun..Calculate a rotational speed, then calculate a speed that will translate to a +40 or -40 degree angle of variance of 1 rotation, then apply that speed to the motor. Thankfully the VVTIE units also have an inbuilt EDU with only 2 inputs from the stock ecu and 2 Outputs. sure it will be a head melter if nothing else lol Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You should post this on the Syvecs forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Just a quick update. We have decided to run the AA80E box, along with the IS-F Differential. We will be controlling the box via custom contoller with paddle shift changes. The DI fueling is still a major headache though i have more information on it now including schematics, wiring, control etc etc This is the most important part of this swap. Max Orido decided to by pass DI, and unfortunately it caused major engine failure. The DI injectors heated up as they had no fuel flowing though them (an inbuilt mechanism for cooling) and caused Det melting one piston, and melting an injector tip in another cylinder. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darragh Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 So yas don't need my 5 speed then? If so I'll stick it up for sale again lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelboyne Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 hi all iam thinking about haveing a lexus is200 but would like drop a 3liter twin turbo in a lexus is200 is it easy or not and do u no were who can do it ??? it has been done but not cheap and not straight forward tdi done one a few yrs back best give sam or sean a call in tdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 it has been done but not cheap and not straight forward tdi done one a few yrs back best give sam or sean a call in tdi Probably one of the easier swaps to do TBH, bit of fabbing on the sump, gs300 mounts with 10mm spacers, back tubby intake tight but no probs with single conversion https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/25117_112484475435735_6450835_n.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Or buy an IS-300? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Or buy an IS-300? Do they not have the 2jzGE engine though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Turism0 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Do they not have the 2jzGE engine though? yes. Friend of mine has done a 1JZ swap into his IS200 with a Holset HX35 single and it's absolutely rapid http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/472789_333417583374149_1222554805_o.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Check out the Awesome Stuff Colin and Marty are doing! (in the blog section) http://supraspecialists.com/ CAN DASH DISPLAY – For custom AA80E controller http://www.2urgse-supra.herobo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/lcddashbezel.jpg Cosmetics – The rear end http://www.2urgse-supra.herobo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/rear.jpg http://www.2urgse-supra.herobo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/rear2.jpg Disecting the DI system just some rough notes in how we might control the DI EDU’s http://www.2urgse-supra.herobo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Di1-822x1024.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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