Scooter Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 So what will I be able to get instead if all the Supras are tatty and falling to bits!! I wouldn't worry too much mate, there are still some tidy D, E & F reg Mkiii's that come up for sale and the Mkiv should last better than those in general so I fully expect they'll be some clean L, M & N reg's around in 4-5 years time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouse Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe ?? 3.8 v6 . 300+bhp from factory. rwd and i imagen they will get real cheap Just had a look at these, I had not heard of it. Looks interesting...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe ?? 3.8 v6 . 300+bhp from factory. rwd and i imagen they will get real cheap I really like the look of those, some very nice kitted ones out there and certainly rare. How much are they currently going for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpayne1843 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I know its not quite the same type of car as a supra but the Honda s2000? Probably more similar to mk2 mr2 scene. Jap, good looking, prices will become reasonable, plenty of scope to tune & not too common on the roads. Apart from that it's got to be the 350z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I really like the look of those, some very nice kitted ones out there and certainly rare. How much are they currently going for? They start at $22,000 in the US. Not currently available in the UK, but could be as soon as 2011 because they're hugely popular in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 i think $22,000 is for the 2.0t version that aparently is underpowerd and the engine is unrefiend. but i love the look of them im guessiong they will be high £20k when they arrive here but within a few years they will be verry affordable and as they are so popular in the us im guessing the tuneing company will be developeing upgrade parts for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 i think $22,000 is for the 2.0t version that aparently is underpowerd and the engine is unrefiend. but i love the look of them im guessiong they will be high £20k when they arrive here but within a few years they will be verry affordable and as they are so popular in the us im guessing the tuneing company will be developeing upgrade parts for them. There are huge amounts of tuning bits available already, SEMA was rammed full of them last year. Someone even did a mid-engined one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 its is a competitor for tuning car god of the futer then. i actuall made a good sugestion , go me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 There are huge amounts of tuning bits available already, SEMA was rammed full of them last year. Someone even did a mid-engined one I think we have a winner, Lets hope they get them over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 From top gear Hyundai always planned on targeting their upcoming Genesis Coupe at the US tuning/drift scene, and now they’ve invited some of the big aftermarket specialists to tweak the car before its official launch later this year. This is the HKS USA take on the car, which will be shown at this year's SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association) show in Las Vegas. Based on the four-cylinder turbo version (not the 3.8-litre V6), the HKS Genesis gets a HKS GT turbocharger, a new exhaust/intake system, modified ECU and adjustable suspension. The standard car pumps out 212bhp; expect the HKS version to exceed 300bhp. The tweaked Genesis also features what HKS are calling 'functional ground effects'. As opposed to 'dysfunctional ground effects' we presume. Which sounds scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) im looking for a twin turbo kit for the 3.6v8 that could be good apparently there is allready a bolt on sc kit that will take it over 400 bhp Edited February 25, 2010 by dr_jekyll (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 See you all on the Hyundai forum in a few years then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) allready there http://www.gencoupe.com/ reading through it seems like those cars are having some teething problems. Edited February 25, 2010 by dr_jekyll (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I'd be intetested in knowing whether the hardcore tuners are finding the modern engines more difficult to produce aftermarket parts for. The Supra engine is a monster lump which was pretty much designed at the point when there were still drawing boards in the average design office. Structural analysis would have been much more expensive to run, both in terms of time and money, and the results would have bene less accurate and probably therefore less widely used. When I started in engineering we only did serious FEA on the major castings. These days we do it on everything right down to brackets for wiring harness connectors. The result is that the 2JZ will have been over-engineered (regardless of wether you believe it is a detuned race engine or not) by default. It is also a very low-tech engine with a relatively simple map-based ECU. In contrast, today's engines are engineered to be cut to the bone for lightness and cost, have every bell and whistle on them in the name of performance and emissions and by and large are driven by extremely complex torque-based ECUs. Does this mean that the days of the piggy-back ECU are numbered and the only way to go will be a full replacement (map-based) ECU? Do modern engined lend themselves to bonkers power increases with any real chance of them not letting go during "normal" use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIL Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I think Toyota will still have the most modified cars. This year alone 4.2 million will have modified accelerator pedal upgrades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 i think the supra skyline days are gone forever really. will new cars be as tunable ands mechanicly strong as these cars from the 90s, i personally think not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Do modern engined lend themselves to bonkers power increases with any real chance of them not letting go during "normal" use? So will a 2JZ fit in a Hyundai Genesis Coupe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 So will a 2JZ fit in a Hyundai Genesis Coupe? Dont think it will have to, seen people talking about supercharging the v8:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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