neil tt Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I'm sorry you've being ripped off, but it happens. At the time you where happy, just chalk it up to experience:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 That sucks. But your not the first and wont be the last im afraid. Now you are a member here it will lessen the chnce of this happening again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivingTheDream Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Well with this thread on here you should have lost them quite a bit of business-Not sure whether it would work but you could try writing a letter in to a mag like JP or Banzai to name and shame them. Not much consolation but a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I would talk to them before naming and shaming mate. Give them a call and see what they have to say for themselves. You also have an offer for one of the members to have a face to face chat to see what their reply is. In all honesty i think it would be good to hear from them for all the members on here who have replied to this thread. Just to see if they are worth their salt or not. If the reply is not good then they most likely won't see any of us at their door asking for work done. Then you can take it that little step further by going to trading standards, naming and shaming etc. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Did you shop around? Did you do any research on the net? Did you talk to anyone else about getting the work done? You don't have to be member on here to buy from the likes of Whifbitz and this forum isn't the only place they can be found. So, you got ripped off on parts and labour. It happens to most of us at some point. What you should do instead of carrying on and wanting the place levelled is learn from your mistakes and not do anything until you've done your research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraD06 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 I'm sorry you've being ripped off, but it happens. At the time you where happy, just chalk it up to experience:) yeah i know i think its just one of those lessons learnt type situations. That sucks. But your not the first and wont be the last im afraid. Now you are a member here it will lessen the chnce of this happening again. im realy glad i joined this forum, as its been said in the past it realy is worth the £30 fee, Well with this thread on here you should have lost them quite a bit of business-Not sure whether it would work but you could try writing a letter in to a mag like JP or Banzai to name and shame them. Not much consolation but a little hopfully now everyone will remember the name and avoid more rip off's as its been said i wont be the last but we can minimise the amount of rip off with the aid of this forum I would talk to them before naming and shaming mate. Give them a call and see what they have to say for themselves. You also have an offer for one of the members to have a face to face chat to see what their reply is. In all honesty i think it would be good to hear from them for all the members on here who have replied to this thread. Just to see if they are worth their salt or not. If the reply is not good then they most likely won't see any of us at their door asking for work done. Then you can take it that little step further by going to trading standards, naming and shaming etc. Scott =op yeah id like to speak to them and see how they came to the prices they charged me and like you say ive had quite abit of intrest on this thread from alot of members and it would be nice to know where we stand on if they are a trustworthy company, unfortunatly my view is quite low at the moment needless to say:( Did you shop around? Did you do any research on the net? Did you talk to anyone else about getting the work done? You don't have to be member on here to buy from the likes of Whifbitz and this forum isn't the only place they can be found. So, you got ripped off on parts and labour. It happens to most of us at some point. What you should do instead of carrying on and wanting the place levelled is learn from your mistakes and not do anything until you've done your research. like an idiot i didnt do much shopping around, a few people i know have been there and it seemed a very good company and also local which looking at it now id of rather drove another 50 miles than be £1200 out of pocket, i have learned from my mistakes but i want everyone to know about this as it will more than likely happen again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraD06 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 Took my car there a little while ago as i live 5 miles away, they couldnt find any faults and even though i was told i would get the diagnostics done for free i got a bill for £175,, i wont be going back there again !! Doubt they'll stay in business for long if they keep taking the p like this. thats what happened to me, they made out like they will only use parts they NEED and then i have this Neo fitted which i didnt need and they stick a £595+vat price tag on it, and even if i said i dont want it im sure id of had the labour charge still to pay, aswell as a hole in the dash, but i mean £595 for a profec b boost controller is appauling:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Did you shop around? Did you do any research on the net? Did you talk to anyone else about getting the work done? You don't have to be member on here to buy from the likes of Whifbitz and this forum isn't the only place they can be found. So, you got ripped off on parts and labour. It happens to most of us at some point. What you should do instead of carrying on and wanting the place levelled is learn from your mistakes and not do anything until you've done your research. I kinda gotta agree, a lot of companies will shaft you given half the chance, they'll struggle to get repeat custom by doing it but theyre obviously only bothered about the bottom line at the end of the day. The fact that you just got your car by the sounds of it didnt help as your more willing to spend on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraD06 Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 I kinda gotta agree, a lot of companies will shaft you given half the chance, they'll struggle to get repeat custom by doing it but theyre obviously only bothered about the bottom line at the end of the day. The fact that you just got your car by the sounds of it didnt help as your more willing to spend on it. that was the main problem, not knowing the prices of parts plus having the supra spend bug doesnt help, but its my own stupid fault and all i can do know is let you people know about it so it doesnt happen again, at those sort of mark up prices they only need a slow custom to make big money anyway so they probably dont care about their reputation, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Even Phoenix only charge £35 an hour and there is no VAT to pay on that £40 now mate;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 live and learn matey:) and trust no one:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steviekid Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I can't get over how much they charged for the Profec B!! I paid about £160 for a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 ouchie wa wa. that sucks, everyones always out to rip someone off these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Sorry to hear this mate, sounds like they've well and truly done you over. As others have said, live and learn. At least they've hopefully installed things correctly, better that and getting charged a premium for it than having something installed on the cheap and a garage making a complete hash of it....Turbo...F...i anyone care to remember! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Anyway, it's the rear wheel HP you should be talking about, fwhp is just a guess made by the dyno. When they gave you the dyno results they should have provided them with a RWHP figure (which is what the rolling road actualy calculates), sounds like they didn't Actually I disagree with this. A normal dyno measures torque at the roller, NOT at the wheel. The roller can put a lot more friction on the tyre than a normal road, and the number of rollers (1 or 2), where the tyre is positioned (on top or to the front or rear) and most importantly how and how hard it's strapped down can make a big difference. That's why the dyno does a coast down, where the speed is allowed to coast down while the dyno measures how fast it slows. That lets it calculate the drag caused by the dyno and the transmission too, but it's the dyno drag that's important. That makes RWHP the dodgy figure, not the flywheel one. It's not a guess, it's a measured figure. Unless you're on a crap dyno that doesn't do a coast down. Incidently, that is the drawback of hub dynos, they can't do a coast down so for them the flywheel figure is a guess, and the lack of friction caused by strapping down a tyre is why they appear to read higher. They are more repeatable though, as the coast down can be a bit innacurate as the tyre may shift and the friction change when the car is under power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Speaking of coasting down, I once saw a dyno operator stand on the brakes of a fwd car after a power run, the wheels went from 130mph to 0 in about half a second = brakes were completely knackered after that. Regarding the fuel computer, it isn't going to hurt is it, infact if you look at your AFR's compared to a BPU Supra without one you may be better off, depending how well it's been mapped/programed as your injectors are actually being controlled with set values instead of automatically going to 100% duty cycle once you go over 1.0bar of boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 if i were you i would drag there name through the shit, tell every one and post on all forums not to use them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fish Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 thats a right sting in the ass , i would be very annoyed aswell..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra61 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Hi bud sorry to hear about your bad luck.Mines at interpro at the mo,i have heard nothing but good reports about these guys.if you have any more work done look on here for traders and services.good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbonut Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 if i were you i would drag there name through the shit, tell every one and post on all forums not to use them I disagree. As Martin said, did this guy do his homework first? Did you find out exactly what you did and didnt need for a BPU before ostensibly giving them a blank cheque? Did you get your own prices for comparable suppliers/parts?? Request a quote before they started? I think you were too trusting, mate. You should of got them to give you a list of parts and prices before allowing them to buy on your behalf and checking their labour rate/estimated work time. If you had a new car and went to a franchised dealership theyd charge you a massive mark up on parts - standard practise, thats how they make their money, not on labour charges alone. Its all hindsight fellah and I feel for you. But......We're a bunch of tight @rses on here and check everywhere before buying anything for our supra's. As for Weston, they do charge a lot for labour, but then I was charged 60 quid an hour for a specialist jap car garage for servicing. These guys charge pretty much as they wish as they regard themselves as specialists. I went to Weston and they sorted my geometry and suspension which I knew was bad but hadnt realised was so awful til it was sorted. Not cheap, but thorough and professional and I for one wouldnt hesitate to go back - and in fact, will. Linda x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraD06 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 i can understand ' specialists ' charging over the odds for parts but when you think some people pay between £160-£250 for a boost controller and they charged me £595+vat which is £699 for a profec b controller, thats not just making their money thats just daylight robbery, like people have said its all abit to late now and its going to be one of those things you just have to live and learn but i have lost al faith in them now, no need to rip people off, i wouldnt have minded if it was £30-£50 over priced but when its nearly £350+ thats taking th pi@@ appreciate everyones input and views, im going to get in contact with them tomorrow and will keep you all posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraD06 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 also if they sorted you geometry and suspension then those are things YOU alredy had on the car and all they did was tinker and adjust them which would be classed as spanner work so would only be labour charge work, if id of got all my parts elsewhere then taken them all to weston then i would only have the labour to pay but its the appauling prices they charge for their parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Sorry to hear that you have been ripped off. As Peter said earlier on (in Latin though) 'buyer beware'. never spend money without doing your homework 1st. Learn from it and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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edd_t Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 blimey, am glad i've read all this. am planning to go BPU in the new year myself. sorry to hear about your situation dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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