lockys96 Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 no. the welder isnt in on weekends. need to book a hol-day to get up there, and i can only see myself getting there wed 13th, might me possible to make 8th, but i doubt it very much as my cars being resprayed and arches rebuilt as of 31st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 the welder isnt in on weekends. He must've been off last week too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 no. the welder isnt in on weekends. need to book a hol-day to get up there, and i can only see myself getting there wed 13th, might me possible to make 8th, but i doubt it very much as my cars being resprayed and arches rebuilt as of 31st That's a bit poo having to take some holiday to get it fixed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Given that you have to use holiday to visit the exhaust fitters. I would suggest finding someone local to correct the mistakes and send the bill to the amateurs that did this sloppy work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 well shouldnt i let them see if they can correct it first, cant see them paying out £450 Mmm, there is a difference between you spotting something not quite right about a job and getting it sorted, and a hasty knock-up like this. I give people either 0 or 1 chances to fix a problem they caused on my car. This would rate a 0, as I'd have no confidence in whoever did this's ability to produce a proper job. Alas if you are going to take them to court for the cost of the work, your time off, and a new exhaust, you have to give them one chance to fix it first unless you can strongly evidence a "lack of confidence" stance... So take plenty of photos and put it in writing what you asked for, what you found wrong, what remedial work you want doing and when you want it doing by. If you then get a less than perfect job done, or get fobbed off in some fashion, get it straight into County Court. If you deviate off this course you'll get taken for a ride. After one chance is squandered, all promises of fixes and remedies and refunds aren't worth piss as far as I reckon. I got shafted once, years ago, I've never got shafted since. Hope for it getting sorted. Plan for it being a disaster. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted June 5, 2007 Author Share Posted June 5, 2007 i hope not, i think Turbofit would like to put right the problem. perhaps im just a one off case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Mmm, there is a difference between you spotting something not quite right about a job and getting it sorted, and a hasty knock-up like this. I give people either 0 or 1 chances to fix a problem they caused on my car. This would rate a 0, as I'd have no confidence in whoever did this's ability to produce a proper job. Alas if you are going to take them to court for the cost of the work, your time off, and a new exhaust, you have to give them one chance to fix it first unless you can strongly evidence a "lack of confidence" stance... So take plenty of photos and put it in writing what you asked for, what you found wrong, what remedial work you want doing and when you want it doing by. If you then get a less than perfect job done, or get fobbed off in some fashion, get it straight into County Court. If you deviate off this course you'll get taken for a ride. After one chance is squandered, all promises of fixes and remedies and refunds aren't worth piss as far as I reckon. I got shafted once, years ago, I've never got shafted since. Hope for it getting sorted. Plan for it being a disaster. -Ian i only usually give one chance then never again, we live and learn:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 perhaps im just a one off case NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I think we're getting a bit hysterical here, it could be sorted as new, any good exhaust fabricator or indeed tin basher with a TIG could fix this given a bit of time. Everyone makes mistakes, give them a fair crack at sorting it, even if they send you to an exhaust specialist and foot the bill there. I am sure there's no need to go to litigation, hell, someone will be advising him to claim for stress and sexual disfunction next It's just an exhaust that's been done poorly for whatever reason, it's not a botched heart transplant for Gods sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I think we're getting a bit hysterical here, it could be sorted as new, any good exhaust fabricator or indeed tin basher with a TIG could fix this given a bit of time. Everyone makes mistakes, give them a fair crack at sorting it, even if they send you to an exhaust specialist and foot the bill there. I am sure there's no need to go to litigation, hell, someone will be advising him to claim for stress and sexual disfunction next It's just an exhaust that's been done poorly for whatever reason, it's not a botched heart transplant for Gods sake Someone talks some sense at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN R Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Someone talks some sense at least aye fair point:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 It's just an exhaust that's been done poorly for whatever reason, it's not a botched heart transplant for Gods sake No but it is the thin end of the wedge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 You're suggesting they use a thicker wedge to hold it on... interesting concept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 You're suggesting they use a thicker wedge to hold it on... interesting concept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Just out of interest, would you, if you saw that coming back from the welders after farming it out to have the work done, be able to tell of the type of stuff used to weld it? I only ask as obvious that the material used has corroded badly in a relatively short amount of time, but when freshly applied, would you be able to tell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Just out of interest, would you, if you saw that coming back from the welders after farming it out to have the work done, be able to tell of the type of stuff used to weld it? I only ask as obvious that the material used has corroded badly in a relatively short amount of time, but when freshly applied, would you be able to tell? Initially you wouldn't be able to spot stainless vs mild steel welding wire usage. However the exhaust is subject to heat and that would accelerate any oxidation on the mild steel weld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 aye fair point:) sounds like you're picking up the lingo already Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Initially you wouldn't be able to spot stainless vs mild steel welding wire usage. However the exhaust is subject to heat and that would accelerate any oxidation on the mild steel weld. Yes you would, very easily. The old magnet will spot a mild steel fillet as opposed to (none magnetic) stainless filler. Correctly done stainless bead has a distictive gold sort of colour. Here's a stainless weld fillet I did on a swirl pot, you can see the colouration even on a fine bead. http://www.chriswilson.tv/weld.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 i think he meant a customer/owner wouldn't really be able to tell until a while later............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 i think he meant a customer/owner wouldn't really be able to tell until a while later............ Ahh, I see, sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN R Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 sounds like you're picking up the lingo already Martin Its the first word I learnt:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 seems i cant make next week either car is still in spray shop until at least next friday. and the week after im so busy, due to 2 employees off. it sucks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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