firin Supra Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hi as the title says im thinking of a uk vvti swap but my question is has anyone tried and done it? #2 what is needed for the swap? I have the engine and box steering wiring loom but they are from mk2 aristo any help and tips would be very gratefull thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Supes Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Swapping a vvti into a UK car? You would need the entire loom to go with it. Personally, I'm not sure why you would want to though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 That wouldn't be an easy swap at all. To do it properly, you'd need to swap the dash too ad tiptronic have a gear display. And does the aristo box even fit the Supra? They have a different part number. Personally, I don't think its worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Can't imagine it would have a positive affect on the value of the UK car either. You would be better off selling the UK spec and picking up a J-spec VVTI if that is what you want. Depending on the condition of the UK spec you might even be able to put a little in the bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firin Supra Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Thanks for the info what i intend to do has nothing to do with valuation as i will never sell it it will be past down so thats out of the equation i just wanted to do somthing different with the supra. Iv not looked into the conversion yet i thought post up to see everyones help and knowledge as i really do want to do the conversion. If someone could provide me with a list of things that could be used to complete the conversion i would really appreciate. As it goes for worth it modding a car is never worth it its all about how and what you want to achieve what someone may see worth may not be worth it to someone else as i already have engine box steering wiring complete aristo wiring even the dash just woundering would the dash fit the supra? Nah only joking prefer supra dash even if it did fit. So to my knowledge on this i assume i need complete supra loom, dials, shifter, supra ecu vvti tt, exhaust downpipe, maybe supra vvti gearbox thats everything i can think of at the top of my head if iv missed somthing please enlighten me thanks for the help so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Ask Swampy, he knows for sure what's involved and it's more than you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 You basically want to look for a complete rotten or crashed VVTi Supra, anything less will cause you a major headache as j_jza80 has already said. Also as mentioned above contact Swampy. What on earth you would want to ruin a rare car like a UK spec by unnecessarily fettling with it in this way is beyond me. Sell it to an enthusiast/collector that will appreciate the car for what it is, buy what you want and put some cash in the bank. There is no rhyme, reason or benefit to doing this unless of course you like wasting time & money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firin Supra Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Wow frank thanks for the input i understand but if i can pull it off it will be even more rare not only that iv already made it clear i will never sell the car so what i wish to do with car and mod it the way i want has nothing to do with you the forum is about helping one another achive thier goels and trading each other knowledge and know how not for the likes of you dictate what i should and shouldnt do at the end of the day its my car not yours i understand why certain people on here are saying what they are yes its a rare beautifull car however i like to be different on the other hand if its not cost effective i will not carry out the swap simple. I hope ive not heart anyones feelings i just dont being told what to do espacially if its not your money and time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 A few full stops would have been nice What 'Frank' said is 100% right.There's no way it will be cost effective, at all. It may interest you to know that he and I are both tiptronic owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firin Supra Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Until i dont have a list of things that are needed i want to make my own mind up on that. Its a very similier situation with the guys or girls converting to 6speed its not cost effective you can pick up a 6speed cheaper then the total cost of doing it yourself but you dont hear the rants of its not worth it buy a manual car instead do you! Thats my point each to thier own if cannot help dont post up. Were is goes for cost effective i might be able to pick up the parts cheap enough that it might not cost me hardly anything i already have the main parts that are expensive. J jza80 is your car tiptronic from factory or did you convert and how much was the car if bought? you dont have to be exact if you dont want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Wow frank thanks for the input i understand but if i can pull it off it will be even more rare not only that iv already made it clear i will never sell the car so what i wish to do with car and mod it the way i want has nothing to do with you the forum is about helping one another achive thier goels and trading each other knowledge and know how not for the likes of you dictate what i should and shouldnt do at the end of the day its my car not yours i understand why certain people on here are saying what they are yes its a rare beautifull car however i like to be different on the other hand if its not cost effective i will not carry out the swap simple. I hope ive not heart anyones feelings i just dont being told what to do espacially if its not your money and time Exactly right, it's your car and you go ahead and do what you want to it mate Also it's going to up the value of all other UK specs including mine, with one less original UK spec about I do have couple of things to put to you though, and please don't take them the wrong way as they are not digs. Firstly, putting a VVTI engine in will not make it even more rare, it will just be a UK spec with the wrong engine. Secondly, why would you want to make your car slower? A BPU'd UK car will out pace any BPU jspec car, even VVTI. You engine swap idea is a step backwards in my humble opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firin Supra Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Thanks burna you are the man the reason i thought of it is because of it being different but and i had the bits needed not all but the main for the conversion and i do like the idea of tiptronic. The problem lies with me not wanting to sell the car for another supra i love my car too much to sell so will be kept in the family anyhow being original a bpu car is not original a bone stock supra is original but thats just my opinion. I like the way you come on to the forum and all you are getting now is dont do this and dont do that its not like im putting in a v8 or a 1jz oh well there goes the hopes and dreams shattered in one place oh well life goes on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 If you want button or paddleshifters on the steering wheel, you could install a syvecs S6 plus ecu. At £3500 ish fitted with all sensors etc and mapping it may not seem cheap, but as I said not only will it allow you to have the gearshifters you want, but the car will be more powerful, more economical, you can have various fuel maps, it gives you adjustable traction control, and much more advanced safety features than the stock ecu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Thanks burna you are the man the reason i thought of it is because of it being different but and i had the bits needed not all but the main for the conversion and i do like the idea of tiptronic. The problem lies with me not wanting to sell the car for another supra i love my car too much to sell so will be kept in the family anyhow being original a bpu car is not original a bone stock supra is original but thats just my opinion. I like the way you come on to the forum and all you are getting now is dont do this and dont do that its not like im putting in a v8 or a 1jz oh well there goes the hopes and dreams shattered in one place oh well life goes on Ah but a BPU car can be turned back to stock easily Like I said, do what you want. it's your car, people are just trying to help with putting ideas your way mate. If you want button or paddleshifters on the steering wheel, you could install a syvecs S6 plus ecu. At £3500 ish fitted with all sensors etc and mapping it may not seem cheap, but as I said not only will it allow you to have the gearshifters you want, but the car will be more powerful, more economical, you can have various fuel maps, it gives you adjustable traction control, and much more advanced safety features than the stock ecu. Now that would be a far better way to go than an aristo vvti engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Technically possible, VERY time consuming. Costly,especially if you have to pay someone else to do it. You would need a scrap VVTi car to take all the stuff from, realistically. Please concentrate on getting a spelling checker before worrying about a VVTi auto conversion though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firin Supra Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Srray cris hpe iv nt spld noting rong i dis sentnse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firin Supra Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Honest i do appreciate some views just not all to those that are helpfull thanks i will stick with the uk setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanisLupus Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 If you have an UK Spec Auto already, then keep the Gearbox, get a VVTI Lump and a Syvecs. The EU/UK A343E Gearboxes are stronger compared to the Jspec ones. Both gearboxes' Valve Bodies can be modified for harder and faster Shifts too. Combined with a Syvecs and Paddles you'll have a much better, faster and more fun to drive result than with just swapping stock parts over. As for UK spec vs Jspec Turbos. I'd just get the Turbos rebuilt with steel Turbines. Then the Jspec Units could make more power than EU/UK Units because they are a bit bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firin Supra Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Thanks canislupus didnt know the gearbox was actually stronger sounds like a good plan though couldent i just swap out the turbos of the uk spec with manny and bolt them up to the vvti? I may go down the route of a single were as before i wanted to keep the twins but turbos have come along way now from they used to be a fast spooling turbo is achievable nowadays. Syvecs ecu will be a must. For dropping in the vvti lump will just need the engine wiring and ecu to start of with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 UK turbos are smaller and less efficient than J-Spec, and UK turbos have a different manifold to turbo stud pattern. You would need all of the exhaust manifold, turbos and turbo to downpipe casting to convert. Fitting a Syvecs to a sequential is not trivial, I am doing just that at the moment. S6 Plus to VVTi Tiptronic. The Syvecs is to control sequential turbos, Tiptronic automatic gearbox and the fly by wire throttle. Not sure if the customer is mad for wanting it, or I am mad for involving myself He also wants more sensors than were involved in landing man on the moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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