your opinion on buy an auto for cheap and convert in to 6speed getrag later

[jagman]

Modern dual clutch gearboxes cater for different criteria - diesel cars , direct injection cars or sports cars with narrower torque bands - these all need lots of gears , the main efficiency gains over a traditional autobox is there is not torque converter to turn and large movement of hydraulic fluid .

The Supra isn't torque shy or have a limited rev range and has power to spare - so it can run a torque converter .

The torque converter costs to run , it sucks down fuel , I'm not bothered by that because it performs magic ........it multiplies torque .

2nd to 4th with only 2 shifts gives a Hugh range of speed and the kick down is "savage" "kick in the back" - due in part to the multiplication of torque .

Try kicking down an auto on the dyno and see what happens - ha ha

If people wish to spend £4000 to go manual , for their own reasons crack on , but performance isn't one of the reasons , you may still be behind to the old school slush box - lol