Chris Wilson Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 BMW V10 would make more sense, if you want a lot of hassle for less BHP per ton than a modded stock engine STILL waiting for someone to put a BIG ali block Yank V8 in a MKIV. TORQUE is what you need in heavy cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 BMW V10 would make more sense, if you want a lot of hassle for less BHP per ton than a modded stock engine STILL waiting for someone to put a BIG ali block Yank V8 in a MKIV. TORQUE is what you need in heavy cars LS9 per chance, Mr Wilson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Nah, proper mountain motor, at least 9 litres please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Nah, proper mountain motor, at least 9 litres please Good Lord! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Smoky chose the century lump because the v angle is narrower than most. So it would fit in the bay easier. Not sure other v engines would fit? I bet you can get hold of a jag v12 lump quite easy. Dunno if they are any good tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Nah, proper mountain motor, at least 9 litres please What's the displacement of the viper v10. That's 10 or 11 isn't it ? Edit : Oh no 8 or 8.4. Disappointing Edited January 19, 2012 by Guigsy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 What's the displacement of the viper v10. That's 10 or 11 isn't it ? early models were 8ltr, later ones were 8.3ltr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 early models were 8ltr, later ones were 8.3ltr Isn't the later one 9.3? The one that the exhaust set the sill on fire on Top Gear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulley Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Mmmmm love v12 sound, the gtr and se-30 diablo's I've tuned and produced only developed Around 600bhp at 500lbs torque, strong engine tho, with pricetag to match I'd go LS7 and supercharge Or copy jamiep, it's the way to go IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Well I wondered how long it would be before this thread arrived. I wont be responding to any of the little digs, only constructive info that could help people. Custom rods and pistons will be required if turbocharging, I snapped a rod at power levels the stock 2jz could handle easily. Also, they don't like 9000rpm! You WILL need to dry sump it, that includes fabricating a custom oil pan as it won't clear the steering rack (they come as a front sump). Engine mounts are a pain in the backside due to being around 8 inches along from where they need to be. Custom made. ECU - I stripped everything off and ran it on a MS3X, 400 quids worth of ECU in diy, solder it yourself format, works perfectly. Gearbox, custom bellhousing, custom clutch, custom flywheel, the whole lot was made as a one off by Suzuki Japan for me. This cost me almost 3K alone. I could go on for years, it is 10 times more difficult than a V8 build, which in comparison, just fell into place. Also, my budget of 10k for the conversion (not including engine or gearbox) has long disappeared. That's all I'm saying, I don't want this to turn into another debate as most of my threads on this kind of subject seem to. I hope this helps any potential buyers, I wouldn't want anyone being misled into this being a drop in conversion, a couple of days worth of labour etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 from what i was told 280ps gentleman agreement as above never done one lol - i guess labour would be around £1000 (the question is whats needed to make this fit etc etc) UGP might chime in as hes doing one i think. £1000 labour? I wish you had of said, would have saved me four months of faffing on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 So your saying you've already got the engine in the car and running?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 So your saying you've already got the engine in the car and running?? Guess not ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ugp Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I wont be responding to any of the little digs, only constructive info that could help people. *** That's all I'm saying, I don't want this to turn into another debate as most of my threads on this kind of subject seem to. So your saying you've already got the engine in the car and running?? Guess not ?????? I guess the above wasn't clear enough? Thats the last time I'm commenting in this thread. You have my number if you wish to discuss John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Well I wondered how long it would be before this thread arrived. I wont be responding to any of the little digs, only constructive info that could help people. Custom rods and pistons will be required if turbocharging, I snapped a rod at power levels the stock 2jz could handle easily. Also, they don't like 9000rpm! You WILL need to dry sump it, that includes fabricating a custom oil pan as it won't clear the steering rack (they come as a front sump). Engine mounts are a pain in the backside due to being around 8 inches along from where they need to be. Custom made. ECU - I stripped everything off and ran it on a MS3X, 400 quids worth of ECU in diy, solder it yourself format, works perfectly. Gearbox, custom bellhousing, custom clutch, custom flywheel, the whole lot was made as a one off by Suzuki Japan for me. This cost me almost 3K alone. I could go on for years, it is 10 times more difficult than a V8 build, which in comparison, just fell into place. Also, my budget of 10k for the conversion (not including engine or gearbox) has long disappeared. That's all I'm saying, I don't want this to turn into another debate as most of my threads on this kind of subject seem to. I hope this helps any potential buyers, I wouldn't want anyone being misled into this being a drop in conversion, a couple of days worth of labour etc. I'm impressed, that's a lot of work, not to mention the effort of finding someone in Japan to do the custom fabrication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I guess the above wasn't clear enough? Thats the last time I'm commenting in this thread. You have my number if you wish to discuss John. What's the problem? Simple question, if you are snapping rods I guess it was all up and together, any videos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I must have missed the v12 build thread, I'll have a search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I always enjoy reading threads where you comment UGP your one hell of a shady character Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzki Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Could someone point me in the direction of all the negative debating please? I've found the ugp build thread and it all seems nice and positive. r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I guess the above wasn't clear enough? Thats the last time I'm commenting in this thread. You have my number if you wish to discuss John. There's no need to be so abrupt. I was only asking if you had it in and running. It was a simple question which required a simple answer. I only asked due to the fact of all the lies you tell and stirring you do, I couldn't really believe what I was reading TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 confused.com In for a build thread of a century v12 though. I'd be interested if someone could supplyone for 2k and fit it for 1k. V12 supra would be a real unique car, sound would be great although 5700rpm redline doesn't sound great, thats old man stuff??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 confused.com In for a build thread of a century v12 though. I'd be interested if someone could supplyone for 2k and fit it for 1k. V12 supra would be a real unique car, sound would be great although 5700rpm redline doesn't sound great, thats old man stuff??? Well if anyone can do it UGP can. He even had a boat with a V8 engine in cooled by a car radiator (his works not mine). There was even talk of it having a Flux capacitor, but may have just been talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 confused.com In for a build thread of a century v12 though. I'd be interested if someone could supplyone for 2k and fit it for 1k. V12 supra would be a real unique car, sound would be great although 5700rpm redline doesn't sound great, thats old man stuff??? we can supply the engine for that figure and fit it the engine for that figure (ie remove old lump and fit new lump in place) but getting and modding all other things to suit ie ENG AUX etc that will be extra along with ecu etc etc. its not something we have done but happy to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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