Hey , XS POWER?

[marc_p]

I would personally never by a car with an XS Power turbo as I would always be thinking 'If they went cheap with a turbo, what else was done on the cheap'

 

Anyway, it sounds like you don't really have the available funds to go single IMO as you will always have to have a large buffer fund for the 'just incase something get's broken' scenario, plus don't forget that it's not just the turbo kit, there's fuelling, ECU, mapping, brakes, etc, etc, the turbo kit is just the down payment.

 

I'd just make sure I had a nice and tidy N/A.

 

if your going NA-T no one apart from homer has mentioned the cost of piggy back ecu's and mapping to get the car running right .

As far as im aware this is all included in pauls ( whifbitz ) kit with maps already loaded up on a AEM ecu , so its basically plug and play .

 

othere than this i'd say get a TT engine and gearbox dropped in , But unsure on the cost of this lately .

 

I said it one post before him Everybody always ignores me

 

Are we the poor relation?.

 

Yes, yes you are .

 

who cares if its an NA or a TT I would buy a car based on the car not that if it was a NA-T or a TT. admittedly I would be dubious if it was done on the cheap..

 

I would, despite the fact that an N/A lump can't take anywhere near as much power as the TT and the 5 speed box turns into mush after 400bhp, it's resale value is going to be a pittance to that of a proper TT single car.

 

I was told the TT in normal guise was less reliable than the NA and I needed one to do 300-400 miles a week hence getting the NA and then working from there.

 

My N/A was far more unreliable than my TT and there is about 2mpg difference if your taking it steady (put your foot down and it's a 15mpg difference though).

[Scott]

 

thats a pretty poor statement.

 

Are we the poor relation?

 

who cares if its an NA or a TT I would buy a car based on the car not that if it was a NA-T or a TT. admittedly I would be dubious if it was done on the cheap.

 

I was told the TT in normal guise was less reliable than the NA and I needed one to do 300-400 miles a week hence getting the NA and then working from there.

 

Of course not, that isn't what I meant. The same would go spending 10k on a TT, it isn't all of a sudden worth 20k.

 

N/As aren't fetching a lot of money, I think we would all agree to this? To go and chuck 5k, 10k or 15k at one for it only to be worth a couple of K more than a stock N/A is madness in my opinion. Especially when the power goal is the same as a TT that will keep close to it's value.

[dr_jekyll]

where does this " na engine cant take as much power as a tt engine nonsence come from?

 

its the same bottome end - some oil jets that most of the big power us cars remove anyway . with lower compression the ge engine can take every bit as much power as the gte same crank , block cast, rods , barings ect.

 

i cant for the life of me work out why people pay 1500+ for a 2jz gte to strip and rebuld with new parts when they could buy a 2jz ge for £150 and rebuld it to make every bit as much power ast the gte they have just paid literally 10 times more for? makes no sence to me .

 

it fits straight in the same car

it mates up to the same gearbox

high end parts are readily avaible for it

 

just cant work it out

 

 

any way my basic na-t cost less than 2k , all work done myself.

 

everything fitted perfectly , no modding needed

 

makes good power and has dispatched a few tts as witness by a few other club members

 

has now bben on the car nearly 3 years

 

all the welds on the maifold are verry tidy and not atall blotchy or messy.

 

i hate the "ive heard " or " someone told me" rubbish

 

to those who have experinced and have your opinions and reccomendation through that i will allways listen and take note , to those who spout on things that they in reality have no idea about... shhh

 

ill have another one al. fill me up

Edited March 5, 2011 by dr_jekyll (see edit history)

[Homer]

You've done really well getting it to where it is and I'm really pleased you've acheived it, but that's not the whole story.

 

What turbo do you have now, which ECU and injector set? Was it off the shelf or something you've built up over time using 2nd hand parts?

 

I can't remember everything you used, but I don't recall it being an XS kit with only the oil lines changed. What I don't like to see is people being "sold" these XS kits thinking that's all they need buy and that it's a plug and play like the premium kits. It simply isn't. There's lots of fab work and customisation needed to make them work, even then the limits are no where near the same as when starting with a GTE lump.

 

Also, wasn't this only running properly late last year after Ryan got hold of it? It was a bit poorly before then wasn't it (or at least not making any real boost)?

[dr_jekyll]

its is still the xs kit with custom oil lines . i did change the turbo about a year agoand i initially had a hissy fit about teh turbo failing , but after having it inspected by a a turbo specialist after ITS butcherd it i was told the seal fail was caused by sicone contamination that lead back to me . the ecu is a greddy emb , i have stock injectors and a fresh oem fuel pump.

 

i used ryan g to map it and he was pleased with the results and the fuelling . there were a few teething issues when it was first fitted but that was more downt to me learing that anything els but thanks to members like yourself that offerd educated advice i got it all sorted .

 

aditionally i do agree that alot of the xs branded manifolds are pants and made poorly from cheap steel , all im saying is if you shop around you can get xs power stuff thats completely different and is actually not bad atall for the money. i have had 2 xs manifolds in my hands at the same time for the same car and they were worlds apart. one was finished well with braces clean welds and thicker steel . and the other was clearly poor quality , not to mention the the better manifold being noticeably heavyer than the other.

Edited March 5, 2011 by dr_jekyll (see edit history)

[FOSTA]

yeah mine is doing ok like! i just had a problem with it missing under boost but turns out it was just the coil braking down under boost!