imi Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 This aint your thread. You aren't talking sense You are mis-quoting and mis-reading people You are making yourself sound a bit of a t!t. I'd advise YOU to stay out of it mate before you embarass yourself further The OP asked about cams....NOT your opinion on his single conversion route. some really tightly strung people here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
add heywood Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 (especially one that will be strangled without the supporting mods and run like a dog - street driving) Mine certainly doesn't run "like a dog"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 What's the score with pullies?? I cannot use the stock pullies, can I?? Any recommendations?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Stock engine pulleys are fine, if you want the new cams dialed in 100% adjustable cam pulleys are worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 What's the score with pullies?? I cannot use the stock pullies, can I?? Any recommendations?? Ask imi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................. sorry couldn't help it;) Truce now:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I prefer steel pullies to aluminium, especially if you want them on show. I have Jun ones in mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 JUN pulleys would be my choice too. http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4995/juncamgears.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) Go to Piper Cams (as they have 2JZ blanks) and do what every other tuner does, tell them what you want to achieve and they will do a bespoke grind to suit for you (usually as cheap as anything commercially available). Curiously, I'm surprised at the mild lift everyone is running. I can only assume it's 2JZ valve train restriction as we were running nearly 12mm lift on the 3S-GTE engines. Edited October 12, 2010 by Nodalmighty (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) Mine certainly doesn't run "like a dog"... I test drove a T88 Supra a few years back, 600-630bhp, Auto, Stock Engine, but had all the other ancillary mods (ECU, Fuelling, etc). It was fairly uninspiring under 5.5K rpm and then all hell broke loose for the remaining rpms. Wasn't suited for street driving as far as I was concerned - Too laggy for my liking. JUN pulleys would be my choice too. http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4995/juncamgears.jpg not as bling as my HKS ones.... Talking about CAMS - Whifbitz just announced the availability of a range of their own CAMS (quite reasonably priced too)....perhaps worth having a chat with Paul and see what he suggests. Edited October 12, 2010 by imi (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Go to Piper Cams (as they have 2JZ blanks) and do what every other tuner does, tell them what you want to achieve and they will do a bespoke grind to suit for you (usually as cheap as anything commercially available). Curiously, I'm surprised at the mild lift everyone is running. I can only assume it's 2JZ valve train restriction as we were running nearly 12mm lift on the 3S-GTE engines. I would not use piper cams as a doorstop. Austec racing had over 15 rover based TVR engines fail due to the piper cams basically dissolving, several other tuners had the same and Piper refused to honour any warranty even thought the cams were sub standard and made from the wrong material. Leave em to the escort boys and judgeing from Passion ford they don't rate them either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 laggy for my liking. not as bling as my HKS ones.... Talking about CAMS - Whifbitz just announced the availability of a range of their own CAMS (quite reasonably priced too)....perhaps worth having a chat with Paul and see what he suggests. The HKS ones look great but wear very quickly, more so if you have them on display, the dust and grit gets between the belt and pulley and they just go alluminium coloured on the belt run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 HKS had some problems with wear on their old design of cam pulleys, so they changed the materials and design a few years ago, the new ones are suppose to be a lot harder wearing. I use to run their older type of pulleys, there was very light wear to the anodising after 8 years of use but that was with all the covers in place, I'm sure they'd have shown a lot more wear without the cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I would not use piper cams as a doorstop. Austec racing had over 15 rover based TVR engines fail due to the piper cams basically dissolving, several other tuners had the same and Piper refused to honour any warranty even thought the cams were sub standard and made from the wrong material. Leave em to the escort boys and judgeing from Passion ford they don't rate them either. Go to Cat Cams (as they have 2JZ blanks) and do what every other tuner does, tell them what you want to achieve and they will do a bespoke grind to suit for you (usually as cheap as anything commercially available). Curiously, I'm surprised at the mild lift everyone is running. I can only assume it's 2JZ valve train restriction as we were running nearly 12mm lift on the 3S-GTE engines (using bespoke Cat profiles). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Go to Cat Cams (as they have 2JZ blanks) and do what every other tuner does, tell them what you want to achieve and they will do a bespoke grind to suit for you (usually as cheap as anything commercially available). Curiously, I'm surprised at the mild lift everyone is running. I can only assume it's 2JZ valve train restriction as we were running nearly 12mm lift on the 3S-GTE engines (using bespoke Cat profiles). Do you have a link dude, I have heard Cat cams mentioned before and good things too !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Curiously, I'm surprised at the mild lift everyone is running. I can only assume it's 2JZ valve train restriction as we were running nearly 12mm lift on the 3S-GTE engines (using bespoke Cat profiles). On an everyday road car I'd prefer to keep the engine non-interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey. Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 I test drove a T88 Supra a few years back, 600-630bhp, Auto, Stock Engine, but had all the other ancillary mods (ECU, Fuelling, etc). It was fairly uninspiring under 5.5K rpm and then all hell broke loose for the remaining rpms. Wasn't suited for street driving as far as I was concerned - Too laggy for my liking. not as bling as my HKS ones.... Talking about CAMS - Whifbitz just announced the availability of a range of their own CAMS (quite reasonably priced too)....perhaps worth having a chat with Paul and see what he suggests. Good shout about the cams, I imagine a t88 particuly is bad and noticible for it's lag on an auto, on a 6 speed as mine is at least u can work the gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Do you have a link dude, I have heard Cat cams mentioned before and good things too !!!!!! http://www.catcams.co.uk/acatalog/Toyota_Supra_24v_Turbo_2JZ-GTE_Engine.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 On an everyday road car I'd prefer to keep the engine non-interference. Has anyone ever put the valves at full lift of a stock engine and wound the crank round a few times to see if this is true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 The HKS ones look great but wear very quickly, more so if you have them on display, the dust and grit gets between the belt and pulley and they just go alluminium coloured on the belt run. makes sense - thats why I spent another GBP200 getting the lexun cover (think thats what its called). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Has anyone ever put the valves at full lift of a stock engine and wound the crank round a few times to see if this is true? . YUP 272 HKS nothing touched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 http://www.catcams.co.uk/acatalog/Toyota_Supra_24v_Turbo_2JZ-GTE_Engine.html Just spoken to a cam company and they are going to quote me on having some made out of chilled iron;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 . YUP 272 HKS nothing touched. Fair Play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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