Harllequin Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hi guys. You know when you have one of those flashes of inspiration. Well I thought it best to run it by you guys. I was wondering if you could plumb in another SMIC on the passenger side of the car. This would give you 2 SMICs. Has anyone tried this? I've not had a look at the pipework requirements yet but after refurbing the headlights it looks like there would be room enough to add another. Cheers in advance for the comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) Would it not create extra lag on the turbos that same as having an oversized FMIC? Edited September 16, 2009 by Frank Bullitt (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harllequin Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm not sure to be honest. I'd not expect the displacement to be much more than that of a FMIC. Pipework might have to be solid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 i'm sure this has been at least talked about before (if not done) there is no reason why you cant do it, however you might get to the point where the flow loss through all the pipework and bends actually outweighs the benefit of the larger frontal area of two smics, there are cars on the board running 600hp on a single smic so how much power are you looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 You could, yes. Lag probably wouldn't be noticeably increased. The extra pipe volume is absolutely trivial to air volumes flowing from the turbo(s). You would need to make ducting as a mirror image of the RH side, and sort exit louvres in the wing undershielding though, to get similar flow through the outside of the core. Probably a LOT more work than you'd imagine for a small potential gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harllequin Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Cheers guys. I'd searched at topics with the SMIC in the title but hadn't found anything. Chris, from what I understand from your post would you need the same pipe size from Turbo outlet Y pipe to drivers SMIC then mirror that from the passenger side to the throttle body? (Pipework 1 and 2 have to be identicle in air displacement and bends) In essence you would have the same displacement of air in the pipe work both too and from both SMICs The joining pipe being as straight as possible with any bends 3 and 4 being mirrored? Excuse the basic line drawing. Hope that lot made sense. Warning, if it did your likely as cracked as me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel lane Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 the guys at the australian forums have done this, do a search on this there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Does your setup require two SMICs? What power are you aiming for with which turbo setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Then i`d have to relocate my p/s and oil coolers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Slightly off topic, but would you gain anything from fitting a pull type fan to an intercooler (FMIC or SMIC) like you do to transmission oil coolers etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 This has been done on Nob's MK2 Aristo running single turbo, check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel lane Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 have you got anymore info on the aristo ?..looks very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 for 600bhp a one SMIC is perfectly acceptable. why would you need two SMICs? are you worried about the lack of symmetry when looking at the front bumper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) have you got anymore info on the aristo ?..looks very nice. It's an HKS car, Nob Taniguchi's JZS161 Aristo drift car. "This build is very similar to the new Aristo that Nob's good friend Orido is driving in Formula D." http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/Events/Tuning%20Powers%2008/powers41.jpg Edited September 17, 2009 by PJ (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dejacky Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 does anyone have any idea how this dual smic setup would affect throttle response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 does anyone have any idea how this dual smic setup would affect throttle response? As CW says above, I doubt you would even notice. There is hardly any noticeable difference when swapping from an SMIC to a larger volume FMIC which essentially is the same scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Im gonna say this once. Its all about the ducting! Air goes via the path of least resistance, so if it can go round the intercooler it will and and if air is going round the edge of the intercooler it will be moving faster then the air going through it as it has less resistance, in essence creating low pressure and pulling more air round the intercooler. With the correct ducting you will probably see a greater gain then just sticking on a 2nd intercooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Why not have a FMIC AND 2 x SMIC??? I'll get my coat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Im gonna say this once. Its all about the ducting! Air goes via the path of least resistance, so if it can go round the intercooler it will and and if air is going round the edge of the intercooler it will be moving faster then the air going through it as it has less resistance, in essence creating low pressure and pulling more air round the intercooler. With the correct ducting you will probably see a greater gain then just sticking on a 2nd intercooler. just mount it infront of the front bumper :taped: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 just mount it infront of the front bumper :taped: LOL:d that brought back some memories:innocent: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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