Jump to content
The mkiv Supra Owners Club

mmmmmm


gaz1
 Share

Recommended Posts

TIPS ON FILLING YOUR CAR(S) (Good information)

 

 

I don't know what you guys are paying for petrol.... but here in Durban

we are also paying higher, up to R7.35 per litre. But my line of work is

in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more

of your money's worth for every litre.

 

 

Here at the Marian Hill Pipeline where I work in Durban, we deliver

about 4 million litres in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.

One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and petrol, LRP and

Unleaded. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of

16,800,000 litres.

 

 

Only buy or fill up your car in the early morning when the ground

temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their

storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense

the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon

or in the evening....your litre is not exactly a litre. In the petroleum

business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel

and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important

role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business.

But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the

pumps.

 

 

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a

fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)

stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low

speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created while you are

pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping

on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes

vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground

storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

 

 

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your tank is HALF

FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank the

less air occupying its empty space. petrol evaporates faster than you

can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof.

This

roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so

it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I

work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every

litre is actually the exact amount.

 

 

Another reminder, if there is a fuel truck pumping into the storage

tanks when you stop to buy, DO NOT fill up--most likely the

petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and

you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

 

 

Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.

 

 

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

 

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your tank is HALF

FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank the

less air occupying its empty space. petrol evaporates faster than you

can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof.

This

roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so

it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I

work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every

litre is actually the exact amount.

 

 

 

 

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

 

but coulndt u argue that if u drive all the time with a full tank, ie "heavy load " that you are useing fuel to pull in excessive weight?, lugging 60 litres around all the time is a heavy load!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

but coulndt u argue that if u drive all the time with a full tank, ie "heavy load " that you are useing fuel to pull in excessive weight?, lugging 60 litres around all the time is a heavy load!

Full tank = 70 litres ~70kg

You can't drive round with an empty tank, so the 'extra' fuel you would carry by filling your car every time it gets to half full Vs running it to empty then half-filling it, is 35litres = 35kg, not 70kg.

 

35kg is negligable in a 1,500kg car. Even 70kg isn't that much (~ 1 passenger).

 

Either method is daft IMHO, the extra fuel you'll use going to the petrol station twice as often is unlikely to noticeably outweigh any gains using either of the above methods, assuming that is, that there are any gains to be had - a statement I'm of no means convinced.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Petrol turns to vapour. - So THAT's where it keep disappearing to! :(

Same thing keeps happening to my damn brandy too. :(

 

 

 

IMO, the useful bits of the above are filling up first thing on a cold morning and not filling when there's a tanker in.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

70 litres of petrol weigh about 52 kg. (petrol has a specific density of about 0.74 )

If you fill your tank to the brim early on a cold morning, what happens when it warms up again ? Wont the 'extra' volume of condensed fuel expand and blow out through the vent ?

If you never let the tank go below half full, wont the old fuel constantly 'go off' and constantly dilute the new fuel you put in on top ?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Some interesting tips there, thanks for sharing gaz1. I've got a question for you: is the reason for floating lids on huge petrol storage tanks to reduce the risk of explosion? IIRC, liquid petrol isn't flammable, only the vapour is. By using a floating roof, you reduce the risk of possible explosion.

 

If you fill your tank to the brim early on a cold morning, what happens when it warms up again ? Wont the 'extra' volume of condensed fuel expand and blow out through the vent ?

 

Fair comment. I don't think the expansivity of petrol, combined with relatively small tank capacities (60 litres ish) is enough to cause a blowout in a car's petrol tank. But I'm happy to be corrected.....

 

If you never let the tank go below half full, wont the old fuel constantly 'go off' and constantly dilute the new fuel you put in on top ?

I don't think it works like that, thanks to "serial dilution" (nothing to do with cornflakes :p ). Whenever you drive around, it's likely that any old fuel will be mixed with newer fuel, so you're always using some of the oldest fuel in your tank. The more times you fill up, the more dilute the oldest fuel becomes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. You might also be interested in our Guidelines, Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.