apoc_reg Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Does anyone out there think it would be possible to buy a TT engine (from a1 findapart or something) and shove it in my NA? Maybe a stupid idea but i think it may be better than getting a turbo kit from the states. Cheers for your thoughts Reg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Sell it and get a TT mate, it'll cost a fortune to put in a TT engine, and you'll have to buy a 6 speed box, and probably loads more! They do this conversion in the states for $12,000 so imagine the costs here!!! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apoc_reg Posted October 16, 2003 Author Share Posted October 16, 2003 Just a bit reluctant to sell it as it looks how i want it to look (apart from a cracked bumper........bloody rabits) So id have to buy a turbo then start from scratch. But still $12,000 is a bit of a joke!!!! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymcmurdo Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I'm afraid I'll have to agree.You'd be better off buying a TT than the engine transplant.However Suprastore are doing the single turbo conversion for the NA for $5000 which is £2988 at todays rate.And it comes with an FMIC too! http://www.suprastore.com/sinturconkit.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I was chatting to one of the JIC chaps today about the very same thing, he didn't think a turbo upgrade was the way to go either - he did reckon that a supercharger would give a nice performance upgrade without having to do too much work on the car. Technically I know nothing so I have no idea what kind of performance this would give or the cost, all he did say was that it was significantly cheaper than a turbo upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Packaging nightmare though, surely? There's room for a big single on the exhaust side, and the induction pipes over the top of the engine, but I would have thought that an SC would really want to sit on the intake side, where there is less room. Plus you have to drive the thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 faye - that sounds like not too bad an idea. a paxton or jackson racing unit may give some lower down ooomph and it develops boost immediately i think unlike turbos. apparently, IIRC, there was a stateside supra that was running a s/c system, NOS and turbos as well. god knows how it would work though ... http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/ http://www.paxtonproducts.com http://www.procharger.com http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com http://www.camdensuperchargers.com http://www.powerdyne.com http://www.superchargersonline.com http://www.kuhlsuperchargers.com http://www.usedsuperchargers.com http://www.blowerdriveservice.com http://www.gmpperformance.com/products/engine_parts/superchargers.htm http://www.automotive.eaton.com/product/engine_controls/superchargers.html http://www.lonestarperformance.com/store/merchant.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 The more I think about it the more I want to keep my car rather than change to an non aero TT ( I would want a 98 onwards Supe and I've been told that there are no aeros from then) . Just like Reg its just starting to look how I want it to plus how unusual would a supercharged NA aerotop be? Roy, cheers for those links I'll have a look through, my only problem is that I'm kinda relying on technically minded people telling me what I need ( plus of course funds!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 supercharged (FORMER) NA aerotop will be a super rare commodity ! go on, do it, you know you want to ... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Well I'm gonna have some money burning a whole in my pocket some time next year.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymcmurdo Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 mmmmmm.....Supercharger I heard you were scared to go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Suprastore & Titanmotorsports don't sell the turbo kits anymore. I really looked into turbo kits for the N/A when i had my car, but i decided to sell and buy a TT. Much less hassle but it would be fun (i guess) to do a NA-T conversion. http://www.powerhouseracing.com do a kit for $5200 which they reckon gives 350bhp, and a 13.5 quarter mile time tested....And then theres Boostlogic, http://www.boostlogic.com they are designing a kit as we speak. Everyone on Supraforums reckon it's the best one to go for! These companies also do fuel upgrades like new fuel rail, bigger injectors, walbro fuel pumps etc to up the power. But you have to remember theres loads of companys in America who have done these converions, but nobody over here has so it could be expensive..... Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Putting a TT lump in may not be too bad. If you can get a complete uk engine with turbo's and injectors, there are a good few stock 6 speed ecu's kicking about in the US now, then you would need a loom, and an uprated clutch ( the 5 speed will cope to a moderate level of power). It would still be cheaper to sell it and get a TT though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Faye - go ooooon supercharge it, that would be sooo cool, surely it would be good for 300bhp at least! Anyone know if the auto box in the NA is the same as the TT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 All that money though, just for 300bhp.......TT has 330bhp Don't Superchargers cost the earth though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 i got a NA, and have started the kitty for a full Turbo conversion Kit. Reason for not having turbo at moment is im 20 and at end of day i cant afford to insure it and to be honest probably run it as well! but in 5yrs i can say i have a rare NA-T and if im feelin dareing a couple yrs later, supercharged as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Originally posted by HISUPE Faye - go ooooon supercharge it, that would be sooo cool, surely it would be good for 300bhp at least! Anyone know if the auto box in the NA is the same as the TT? It would be good fun wouldn't it! I don't know if I will do it yet, I'm just toying with some ideas. Not sure if buying a TT would work out good value for money as I paid over the odds for my NA and the amount I would lose selling it would be criminal - I might as well keep ploughing money into a car I know and love!!!!!! ( Female logic- works for me!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Is Nitrous oxide /Nitrogen dioxide / Nawsssss (whatever) not an option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam W Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I would imagine that whether you go turbo or supercharger, you're always gonna be limited by the NA engines high compression ratio. ie you'll only be able to run 5 or 6 psi of boost unless you strip the block and change them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 It can be done! And it has! And you can get high boost pressure running without farting with the internals! Supercharging is not a valid option! Nitrous Oxide is also possible(and has been done)! A turbo conversion is also not that big a drama everyone here thinks, actually it's quite simple! It is also not expensive, you can get drivable high BHP(more than a BPU twin) for under 5K.(all in) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 yeah, you'll have to lower the compression ratio by getting another head gasket, then the engine would need to be stripped completely which is very expensive. Don't do it......get a TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Nitrous would give you 300bhp and only cost about £500, then £300 for clutch and £200 for it to be fitted. So £1000 and you could put 75bhp through it and have just over 300bhp Much better option, then when you come to sell it you can strip it off. People might be put off by a conversion NA Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apoc_reg Posted October 17, 2003 Author Share Posted October 17, 2003 It would be good to have a car that is 'a bit special' because not many people would have one but im not sure what it would do to the resale value when i finally get a TT. Should just get a TT now but as im 22 yrs old and the premium is probably insane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I'm 21 and pay £1200, thats through the big Elephant! Or i could pay £540 through them with my dad as main driver, give them a call. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apoc_reg Posted October 19, 2003 Author Share Posted October 19, 2003 Really... Hmm I got a quote of £1200 as a named driver on my dads from elephant. My dad has a perfect licence so thats a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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