Will i get a speeding ticket?

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I was travelling down a 30mph road today, concentrating on the road ahead, other cars etc. and not staring at the speedo 100% of the time

 

Before i knew it i had passed everyones favourite van that was literally hidden behind a wall so by the time i saw it i had passed it. I quickly checked my speedo and it was about 33mph. I vaguely remember the rules being 10% over plus 2mph which would mean 35mph is ok but is that still the case? And how accurate are supra speedos?

 

3 points isn't the end of the world but it makes me mad when i have to give the government even more money unnecessarily.

 

Thanks for any advice.

 

EDIT: It's been 4 weeks and I didn't receive anything

[heartworm]

I was travelling down a 30mph road today, concentrating on the road ahead, other cars etc. and not staring at the speedo 100% of the time

 

Before i knew it i had passed everyones favourite van that was literally hidden behind a wall so by the time i saw it i had passed it. I quickly checked my speedo and it was about 33mph. I vaguely remember the rules being 10% over plus 2mph which would mean 35mph is ok but is that still the case? And how accurate are supra speedos?

 

3 points isn't the end of the world but it makes me mad when i have to give the government even more money unnecessarily.

 

Thanks for any advice.

 

I did similar and didn't get a ticket a wee while ago.

[Homer]

You might be alright, but the 10% plus two rule is long gone.

 

My sister got 3 points and £60 for 54 in a 50, my dad the same for 34 in a 30. They're both the slowest drivers on earth, just a moment of not concentrating and bam, fine on the doorstep.

[jim_supra]

I wouldn't like to say wether you'd get done for that, you might be lucky, you might not. Doing 33 in a 30 is obviously breaking the speed limit (even though it's not a lot over) and I've known people to be done for doing less.

 

Edit to say: I do think that there should be some leeway (spelling?) for going slightly over the speed limit.

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You might be alright, but the 10% plus two rule is long gone.

 

My sister got 3 points and £60 for 54 in a 50, my dad the same for 34 in a 30. They're both the slowest drivers on earth, just a moment of not concentrating and bam, fine on the doorstep.

 

Yep i drive slowly pretty much all the time as well. And who says the government aren't trying to make money out this...

[Snooze]

Shouldn't worry too much if it's just your speedo that was at 33mph, mate - it's probably reading high anyway, even at that speed.

[Bobbeh]

^ What he said.

[Matt H]

Id hazard a quess you will be o.k, its descretion most of the time as to what the cut of point is. Varies from one district to another, one bacon to another. But 33, like snooze said, most speedos over read anyway, maybe not that much at 30mph but i wouldnt be loosing sleep mate

[Matt H]

You might be alright, but the 10% plus two rule is long gone..

 

I was under the impression 10% +2 was a general rule of thumb, never been gospel, but still a general sort of guide?

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Thanks for the replies guys. I've heard 3 points makes hardly any difference to insurance so im not really worried. But when you try and balance the books and work overtime to pay bills, things like this are not really needed lol. Nevermind, s**t happens. I'll update the thread when a) i receive the ticket or b) 14 days pass without a ticket (i take it the 14 day rule still stands?)

[Thorin]

I was under the impression 10% +2 was a general rule of thumb, never been gospel, but still a general sort of guide?

 

Correct, it's an ACPO guideline, it's not a strict rule. Personally I know some police forces would use different rules, a straight 15% for example.

[jefferson]

while they are having a clamp down all rules out the window methinks - my mates dad was done for 32 (yes 32) in a 30 - i said appeal as it is ludicrous

[Matt H]

while they are having a clamp down all rules out the window methinks - my mates dad was done for 32 (yes 32) in a 30 - i said appeal as it is ludicrous

 

32! thats bloody ludicrous!

[Class One]

I was under the impression 10% +2 was a general rule of thumb, never been gospel, but still a general sort of guide?

 

Correct, it's an ACPO guideline, it's not a strict rule. Personally I know some police forces would use different rules, a straight 15% for example.

 

It was an ACPO guideline, but now they've adopted a zero tolerance policy. Only some forces have adopted zero tolerance (North Wales for example) whereas the Met haven't an infact have massively reduced roads policing and instead poured shed loads of money into "Safer Neighbourhood" policing and employing chocolate fireguards Community Support Officers.

 

Instead of targeting the speeding motorist, we have far more initiatives using ANPR technology and targeting uninsured and unlicensed drivers and seizing their vehicles on the spot. I can't remember the exact figure but I thin the met have seized somewhere in the region of 17000 uninsured vehicles this year.

 

As for speedos underreading/over reading, the paradox is that they tend to under read at low speed and under read at high speed.

 

If you were doing 33 I guess you'll just have to sweat it out for the next 2 weeks and hope they were going for 35mph and above.

[Thorin]

It was an ACPO guideline

 

Ah I see, it's a few years since I was at Humberside Police now, thanks for the correction.

 

Instead of targeting the speeding motorist, we have far more initiatives using ANPR technology and targeting uninsured and unlicensed drivers and seizing their vehicles on the spot. I can't remember the exact figure but I thin the met have seized somewhere in the region of 17000 uninsured vehicles this year.

 

I'm all for ANPR, all forces should spend much more money on it. I know Humberside was one of the first forces to use the system and I spent quite a lot of time setting it up there. It's quite impressive technology.

[Class One]

Ah I see, it's a few years since I was at Humberside Police now, thanks for the correction.

 

 

 

I'm all for ANPR, all forces should spend much more money on it. I know Humberside was one of the first forces to use the system and I spent quite a lot of time setting it up there. It's quite impressive technology.

 

'Tis indeed. They've managed to reduce the size of the equipment and fit them in cars now. Very handy bit of kit.

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Thanks for the replies guys. I've heard 3 points makes hardly any difference to insurance so im not really worried. But when you try and balance the books and work overtime to pay bills, things like this are not really needed lol. Nevermind, s**t happens. I'll update the thread when a) i receive the ticket or b) 14 days pass without a ticket (i take it the 14 day rule still stands?)

 

 

Mine is over by 4 mph according to my GPS, so 33 equals 29 -

14 day rule absolutely applies - my last ticket arrived after 14 days (was dated 13 days after alleged offence) & solicitor got it dropped.

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Mine is over by 4 mph according to my GPS, so 33 equals 29 -

14 day rule absolutely applies - my last ticket arrived after 14 days (was dated 13 days after alleged offence) & solicitor got it dropped.

 

 

I cant believe the speedo can be so inaccurate! Hopefully mine is as inaccurate as yours! I assume all supras will be similar. Thanks for telling me that.

[TonyP]

I cant believe the speedo can be so inaccurate! Hopefully mine is as inaccurate as yours! I assume all supras will be similar. Thanks for telling me that.

 

I reckon mine's reading about 10% over.

[SUPRASUZUKI]

Do aftermarket wheels and tyres make a difference (assuming different rolling radius from stock)?

 

I assume they do.

 

I checked my Sup with GPS - 80 on the speedo = 81 on GPS.

[Homer]

'Tis indeed. They've managed to reduce the size of the equipment and fit them in cars now. Very handy bit of kit.

 

Good news I'm all for ANPR, gets the uninsured, untaxed, unMOT'd buggers off the road.

 

I think I mentioned it to you before but there was an ANPR trial on a road near me a couple of years back. It was planned for 4 hours but after 1 hour they'd seized so many cars they had to stop as the side road (200m long) had been filled with cars and the recovery couldn't keep up!

 

I cant believe the speedo can be so inaccurate! Hopefully mine is as inaccurate as yours! I assume all supras will be similar. Thanks for telling me that.

 

The stock speedo and rev counter are VERY inaccurate. On mine the rev counter read 7500rpm when the engine was at 6800rpm, the speedo over-read by about 10%. so at 30 real mph it was 33mph, at 160 real mph it was near 180mph, at the limiter 198 real mph it was heading back to zero again

 

Edit - this was on stock wheels and tyre's

[SUPRASUZUKI]

That's pretty poor I reckon Homer.

 

This is taken from the Motor Vehicle Reg's

 

2. For all true speeds up to the design speed of the vehicle, the true speed shall not exceed the indicated speed.

 

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/20010025.htm#sch3

 

Not good for those of us who still drive Supras.

[bluecoup]

well my import converted speedo is well well out, its 10% all the way though from low to high according to my road angel, 30 on speedo is 27, 70 on speedo is 63 on road angel

by law a speedo can never read over thats is very bad

[Scott]

My speedo is pretty good on the sup.

 

30 is around 29mph according to GPS

70 is around 66mph according to GPS

 

Manufacturers are meant to have the speedo's set between 0 and -10% of true reading. However at 30mph i think its tightened up to give a true(er) reading.

 

My MR2 on the other hand, at 30 its doing 32 and at 70 its doing 76. Coz the wheels i have on it came off a supra so has 245 x 45's on the back lol.

 

10% + 2 is still the general rule of thumb. Under 10% can be fought in court the +2 can't. Basically the 10% comes from how accurate the speedo needs to be and also what difference the angle of view can make to the reading (different people are different heights etc and will read a speedo differently even if only a slight amount)

 

You'll be fine though. I on the other hand am fooked (97 in a 70 )

 

Scott =op

[Homer]

That's pretty poor I reckon Homer.

 

This is taken from the Motor Vehicle Reg's

 

2. For all true speeds up to the design speed of the vehicle, the true speed shall not exceed the indicated speed.

 

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/20010025.htm#sch3

 

Not good for those of us who still drive Supras.

 

Every standard car I've driven has over-read on the speedo compared to GPS readings. This goes from ancient cars to brand new cars. I've driven probably 20 new (or newish) cars in the last couple of years and every one over-read on the speedo by around 10%. My normal check it to drive at a steady GPS 70mph and see what the speedo is reading, it's never been below 76mph on any car.