Muffleman Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Just look at the Twins Turbos Supra built for Steve A, they pretty much did it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr keef Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Just get Homer to build it lol:d... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Just look at the Twins Turbos Supra built for Steve A, they pretty much did it all. Who's that Bobbeh? Is that the one that did the one lap of America? There was another street race car in the US I have some videos of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveL Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 the brakes would only be used for the handling circuit, which from memory isn't that long.. so why would you need such an expensive setup as already suggested? Surely any of the 6pot conversions ( front and rear ) would be adequate? £5K seems an excessive amount - which I'd rather spend on making the car as light as possible to stay competitive in the handling circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Who's that Bobbeh? Is that the one that did the one lap of America? There was another street race car in the US I have some videos of... the fellas who did that write up on building a big power engine...there were 4 vids on you tube, two twins who keep saying check out this trick turbo, and this trick header etc etc....twas a silver one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Thats a good point Steve. If it were only for the TOTB curcuit, surely the UK spec setup (with the right pads and master cyclinder) would be more than sufficient? IMO, an aftermarket setup would only really help if it were lighter than the UK setup (unsprung mass and all that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 the fellas who did that write up on building a big power engine...there were 4 vids on you tube, two twins who keep saying check out this trick turbo, and this trick header etc etc....twas a silver one If we're talking about the same one.... half of the stuff they said was complete cr*p No doubt they knew what they were doing, but that was for a road car not a stripped out track beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Just try searching Supraforums... and its not the one in the vids, nor was it the One Lap car.. that was another tuner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Just try searching Supraforums... Much as I'd like to..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr keef Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 lol that bloody search function :(its a miss alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 I'd just save my money and buy an MR2. They were doing really well with no traction issues as far as I could tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Much as I'd like to..... Doh, just try the 'Road Racing' forum then. Who'd have thunk it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Remember to use the lightest wheels you can get your hands on. My brake set up is very good, and would easily be up to the job for totb BUT Paul Whiffins Kad brakes are a hell of a lot lighter and even better on track than UK's, and weight is the name of the game here, perhaps have £4k's worth of brakes under the 'nice to have' bracket. GRP wings & doors would help too (oh damn you'll have to fit a TRD3k kit lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 oh, and another - the active front spoiler, it's motor and loom. It's ridiculously heavy and most of it's in front of the wheels. And then probably the entire stock front bumper replaced with a lightweight one like the stillen, none of that heavy GRP stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Remember to use the lightest wheels you can get your hands on. the UK 17's will do just fine for this I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 dont think supras will ever do real well at totb.all small agile cars do best on handling.big turbo stripped out monsters for drag racing.the 2 8 second skylines sounded like the big pro v8`s running 6 and 7`s at santapod.did they only compete in drag and top speed? the gt35r/gt4088r (like jamie`s car) seem to be good all rounders. like the idea of a light supra.mine never came with cruise control or have active spoiler or sub/amp.would have loved to take part looked such good fun.good to see stock turbo cars doing loads better. that fwd golf had no traction problems just seemed to go and was in 11`s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 the UK 17's will do just fine for this I reckon the uk 17s are actually bloody heavy, especially when compared to my 18" volks... lots of unsprung weight to be saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 the uk 17s are actually bloody heavy, especially when compared to my 18" volks... lots of unsprung weight to be saved. they make up for the little extra weight with the offsets and geometry advantages of the stock wheels over any aftermarket wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 they make up for the little extra weight with the offsets and geometry advantages of the stock wheels over any aftermarket wheel how is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 how is that? becuase Toyota are clever chaps..the car was designed to take the wheels and the offsets, suspension initially used, I just think if the car had needed lightweight 18's from the factory they would be on there....this is my view and I know others will dissagree and say 18's were not around back then blah blah, it was designed as a sports saloon so performance wise they would have spent plenty of ££ developing the most efficient/performing setup they could im not saying it cant be improved, but I would hate to think of the cost of improving dramatically on whats already there, its sort of a knock on effect what a lot of people overlook, if the suspension is uprated other components also need doing etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Yeah, but a lighter weight 17inch wheel of the correct offset and size would be a better option, as mentioned, the stock ones are bloody heavy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Yeah, but a lighter weight 17inch wheel of the correct offset and size would be a better option, as mentioned, the stock ones are bloody heavy! I can totally understand what your saying but surely weight is going to effect the geometry of the wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 becuase Toyota are clever chaps..the car was designed to take the wheels and the offsets, suspension initially used, I just think if the car had needed lightweight 18's from the factory they would be on there....this is my view and I know others will dissagree and say 18's were not around back then blah blah, it was designed as a sports saloon so performance wise they would have spent plenty of ££ developing the most efficient/performing setup they could im not saying it cant be improved, but I would hate to think of the cost of improving dramatically on whats already there, its sort of a knock on effect what a lot of people overlook, if the suspension is uprated other components also need doing etc etc I understand where you are coming from, its a good point. but because toyota are making it for a profit, I dont think they would have gone for the best of everything... limits have to have been put on the build of the supra. also if you are changing suspension, brake setup, etc you have changed the geo for the car too much to not warrant new/lightweight wheels. but that leads onto an interesting piece 16s/17s/18s?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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