JamieP Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 bugger I'll be gone by then thanks for the offer though Jamie, really appreciate it. Knew you were a nice bloke when i met you at the pod ! Anytime:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyknox Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I don't know of anyone who is 100% happy with their Supra....there is always something that needs\wants doing....so on that front mate, you are not alone. There is plenty needs doing to mine too Hang in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I don't know of anyone who is 100% happy with their Supra....there is always something that needs\wants doing....so on that front mate, you are not alone. I must admit it could do with a wash:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyknox Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I must admit it could do with a wash:D lol...I hear a change of colour may be in the pipe line too Jamie? I was about to say, that your car is one of the closest I have seen to being a completed project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 lol...I hear a change of colour may be in the pipe line too Jamie? I was about to say, that your car is one of the closest I have seen to being a completed project Nah i cant find anything i like so sticking with the red:) and thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Does anyone have a single car that does'nt need attention week to week?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Does anyone have a single car that does'nt need attention week to week?? No I sold it. If they are built properly they run just as well as a stock car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Does anyone have a single car that does'nt need attention week to week?? Main probs ive had with mine is the drivtrain not handling the power ( or it might just be my driving;) ) had a few boost leaks aswell but they have been easy to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 No I sold it. If they are built properly they run just as well as a stock car. my thoughts exactly Terry, its just a lot of poor folk on here of late seem to be having rather a few issues, by properly I take it you mean, a big investment in the fuelling/management side of things, I cant see how a turbo system can be setup badly, unless the wrong turbo/housing and el cheapo parts are used, ive always though a healthy investment for a single conversion would be a minimum of 10k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Not necessarily huge investment at all, but they do need a bit of thought. Anyone can just bolt a kit on. I will give you a few examples, Dave, (second jump). His is a pretty good example of what can be achieved without huge money, just the right parts, right know how. Dave has been using his car everyday for probably 2 years + now. Clarkey, Vortex T61 budget kit installed by Phoenix. 550cc injectors, set up intially with a SAFC by me, later, an e-manage by Ian C. Used everyday for 18 Months before he sold it, zero issues. And of course Ian C's own car. They all have stock bottom ends & piggy backs. You dont need to have huge amounts of money, but you do need the right help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Great post Terry You dont need to have huge amounts of money, but you do need the right help. Agree 100% with this. Its where I went wrong - should have got someone who knew what they were doing to install and set it up. It would have worked out cheaper too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Not necessarily huge investment at all, but they do need a bit of thought. Anyone can just bolt a kit on. Forgive me if I've got the wrong end of the stick, but this thread seems to blow apart the whole "why go for hybrids when you can go single for a little bit more". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Forgive me if I've got the wrong end of the stick, but this thread seems to blow apart the whole "why go for hybrids when you can go single for a little bit more". Yep, totally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Forgive me if I've got the wrong end of the stick, but this thread seems to blow apart the whole "why go for hybrids when you can go single for a little bit more". Can of worms there Personal choice, simple as that i guess, either can be made really well, and either can be bodged, its a massive discussion thats been done to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 They simply aren't comparable. You are talking a few remanufactured parts in a turbo/s as opposed to a manifold, wastegate, downpipe, midpipe, intake filter, IC pipe, oh and a new turbo. IF hybrids were worth having (Power wise) they would need the same supporting mods as a small single. IMHO hybrids have their place, for people who dont want to tell their insurance company. Unfortunately singles seem to be getting a bad name recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Does anyone have a single car that does'nt need attention week to week?? Mine didn't. When I went single - I just sussed out who was in the know-how. When I first picked the car up from Phoenix, in August 2005 - there was no issues at all. It drove perfectly. I reckon the key to going the single route, if you don't know yourself ... then do some networking with techie guys here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 They simply aren't comparable. You are talking a few remanufactured parts in a turbo/s as opposed to a manifold, wastegate, downpipe, midpipe, intake filter, IC pipe, oh and a new turbo. IF hybrids were worth having (Power wise) they would need the same supporting mods as a small single. IMHO hybrids have their place, for people who dont want to tell their insurance company. Unfortunately singles seem to be getting a bad name recently. I just couldnt be arsed to type it all out If you believe singles to be overhyped and want hybrids then ill see you when you eventually arrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I reckon the key to going the single route, if you don't know yourself ... then do some networking with techie guys here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I just couldnt be arsed to type it all out If you believe singles to be overhyped and want hybrids then ill see you when you eventually arrive Not at all. I think the £2.5k single is overhyped. A full house job like Terry's black car is awesome, I'm sure Jamie's is mindblowing (I haven't been in it yet) but they aren't alternatives to hybrids, for the reasons Terry just mentioned, thus killing the whole arguement of the (budget) single fanboys who hi-jack a thread about hybrids with old "for £500 more you can go single" speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattanna Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 If i had the money and know how i would go single, having the know how appears to be key, after speaking to Steve Sherwood he has spent some £20000 on parts alone and done all the work between himself and the co owner, i think you do need to have at least very good disposable income to keep on top of it all, second decat will have to be max for me now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 If i had the money and know how i would go single, having the know how appears to be key, after speaking to Steve Sherwood he has spent some £20000 on parts alone and done all the work between himself and the co owner, i think you do need to have at least very good disposable income to keep on top of it all, second decat will have to be max for me now!!! Steve is running silly power though isn't he, therefore the price tag will justify that?? What Terry is saying would be for a moderatly powered car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattanna Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Yes he is at the extreme end, but it's amazing how it all tots up though, i think the ability to be able to do the mechanics yourself is the greatest gift as labour is the killer in these jobs, which is where i s**t out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I agree with a lot of what's been said. Going single is going to cost. A lot. But you have to accept what you're trying to do here. You're taking a car that cost £40k new, and trying to double the horsepower. You're never going to be able to do it for peanuts. Don't get me wrong though, there are bargains to be had, and it is, in some cases, possible to cut a couple of corners. But, and this is a BIG BUT, you need to know where you can and can't do that. I think a lot of people get this wrong. The other thing is what's considered a big issue for some people, like for example the warning light being on, isn't an issue for others. As for hybrids, I think they've definitely got a place in the market. I'm surprised at all this snobbery, and hypocritcal comments. On one hand you're saying you can't go single cheap, then on the other hand saying don't go for hybrids you can spend a couple of hundred more and get a single. If they're done properly then you WILL see a performance gain. OK not as much as a single, but then you're spending half as much money. You pay for what you get. If some people can't afford to go the whole hog, but can make a good job of taking a half step, then I see nothing wrong with that. If that wasn't the case, then we'd all either have stock TT's or 1000bhp monsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Just to add to that, I've just had a look at a few sums, I recon that the cheapest you could take a stock manual TT to single in the region of T61 size, is going to be about £6.5K plus labour for a UK or £7.5k plus labour for a J-spec (my personal opinion is that ugraded brakes is an absolute must hence the extra grand or so) For an auto, you should add just under £2k for a built autobox on top of that. I've spent ages trying to find ways to get the cost down from that, but I just can't see how you could reliably do it for less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Not at all. I think the £2.5k single is overhyped. A full house job like Terry's black car is awesome, I'm sure Jamie's is mindblowing (I haven't been in it yet) but they aren't alternatives to hybrids, for the reasons Terry just mentioned, thus killing the whole arguement of the (budget) single fanboys who hi-jack a thread about hybrids with old "for £500 more you can go single" speech. Absolutely, however, please do not confuse me with a budget fanboi, nothing could be further from the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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