MR.B Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Sorry to hear this mate hope you get it sorted alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Bloody England and law covering criminals In Poland this fcuker would have his place burned down to pure ground... Why you guys do not take him to court? @StevenSheen Get it back to him and take money back - 14 days! Do not repair something you shouldn't repair! On this forum you can find few nice members cars for sale, we also have CJ, Jurgen and other guys who importing or searching in UK for a quality cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenSheen Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Right Turbofit...ok looked at their website they look good, but I also have the failed Head Gasket so cant really drive it all the way to milton Keynes in this state....need to get that fixed else where I suppose... Any suggestions of where I might get the head gasket replaced in the essex area? And has anyone got any idea what its gonna cost to fix a head gasket and rough idea on remapping...yes I know its gonna cost a bomb but im now in the mindset that Im gonna totally remake this car seeing as the previous owner already had the engine rebuilt.... Ordered UK lights different bumper, and new dash trim, will get seats refinnished and by the end of it and a huge credit card debt all will be good again....LOL its the only thing I can do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenSheen Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Either that or can someone kindly drop by and set it on fire for me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenSheen Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 And thanks konio-nt, sadly as his a motor trader and not a dealer (He trades from his home) I dont think he is goverend by general motor trader laws and therefore sale of goods act doesnt apply..ie no 14 day period. I have sent Nic an email...perhaps he will agree to help out,I will let you know if he responds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord R Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Man... not another disaster from our favourite trader.. really do feel sorry for you steven. With regards to mapping , if you are running a HKS F Con as GT Cars stated you need to find a HKS Power writer. You can have a gander on the HKS europe site that lists all of the power writers. Off the top of my head there is Abbey Motorsport/ Owen Developments / GT ART / Rampage / PJ Motorsport not sure if turbofit can atm? I always used Owen Dev' for the mapping of my Supra and they did a good job. They are based in Oxford. Its not a cheap route though. So before i did start working , i would be giving GT Cars greif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenSheen Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 How much you think were talking about Gord...and it is an HKS F-CON V what ever that is its sitting in the dash so that much I at least know to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenSheen Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 And in the interests of increasing my technical knowledge what the heck is remapping and why would it need to be done? Once again can anyone suggest a good garage in essex that could sort the head gasket for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenSheen Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Incidentally THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING SO KIND AND HELPFULL.....Its much appreciated, although I am having a shite first day of Supra ownership I can tell overall with folks like you around its gonna be fun Die..GT-cars, Die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 The gold unit sat in the dash is the fcon unit, this controls the spark/fuel/air bits on the engine. Mapping is straight forward, however costly, and with the HKS units there is the worry that the unit is locked and can't be remapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenSheen Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Well Nick of GT-Cars has responded promptly, I have to give him that! He has said; Steve, Firstly how on earth has the previous owner contacted you? And second, i know nothing of a head gaskit problem what so ever, the car is running fine and has been checked over before sale. And third, the car may need a re-map for high boost setting only as a precaution which i explained to you before you left. With respect the previous owner is not qualified to make decisions on what may need mapping or not, im sure he thinks it needs a re-map as he was the guy who arranged the fitting of the uprated parts to the engine and im sure he has assumed it needs re-mapping. So what problems need attention, and why is our previous customer throwing dirt, i will investigate? Im not sure what to think now.........Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Steven, was the car 'sold as seen' or has a warranty been offered? If you have a warranty then you are likely covered. Even if he's a private trader you will still be covered as the car has been falsely represented. I'm not sure where abouts you are in Essex, but there's a few options open for garages to go over the car: Phoenix (based in Watford) Turbofit (MK) Whifbitz (Enfield) Probably more, but the above are all specialists in these cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Well Nick of GT-Cars has responded promptly, I have to give him that! He has said; Steve, Firstly how on earth has the previous owner contacted you? And second, i know nothing of a head gaskit problem what so ever, the car is running fine and has been checked over before sale. And third, the car may need a re-map for high boost setting only as a precaution which i explained to you before you left. With respect the previous owner is not qualified to make decisions on what may need mapping or not, im sure he thinks it needs a re-map as he was the guy who arranged the fitting of the uprated parts to the engine and im sure he has assumed it needs re-mapping. So what problems need attention, and why is our previous customer throwing dirt, i will investigate? Im not sure what to think now.........Suggestions? To be fair a blown HG is easy to detect, get a check done soon. Though the fact it not been mentioned in the reply implies no corrective action was taken if there was indeed a HG issue. What concerns me is there's no mentioned of the "uprated turbos", that is the key to this as it would mean an significant difference in the cars value. Has this been mentioned to Fat Nick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gaaables Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 nick knew the engine needed mapping as when the old one was ripped apart there was severe det marks on the cylinders and the pistons, so much so that the block couldnt be ground out and have bigger pistons fitted. also the spark plug ends had broken off due to extreme heat, not a good sign, hense why i stated it HAS to be re-mapped. the car will have come with a warranty, he promices heaven and earth untill he sells the car then it changes completely, not worth the paper its written on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenSheen Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 my primary concern is really about the mapping thing...if a head gasket is gone then fine I will find out soon enough, but the remapping, I dont have a clue...the previous owner claims the car should not be taken over 3k revs Nick clearly feels otherwise, to be fair he did say to me the turbo was set to 0.8 bar of boost and if I wanted to use the booster to push it to 1.3bar that I should get the engine mapped....He was aware that im a novis though so to be honest I never really know what he was on about...still that doesnt mean I cant go over 3k revs.... Not really sure what course of action to persue...first thing to do would be a check of the head gasket...Enfield will be the closest place to me, Im near Lakeside shopping centre... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 nick knew the engine needed mapping as when the old one was ripped apart there was severe det marks on the cylinders and the pistons, so much so that the block couldnt be ground out and have bigger pistons fitted. also the spark plug ends had broken off due to extreme heat, not a good sign, hense why i stated it HAS to be re-mapped. the car will have come with a warranty, he promices heaven and earth untill he sells the car then it changes completely, not worth the paper its written on You melted the plugs! thats really, really serious and normally requires a full engine rebuild. Was Nick made aware of this when the car was sold? my primary concern is really about the mapping thing...if a head gasket is gone then fine I will find out soon enough, but the remapping, I dont have a clue...the previous owner claims the car should not be taken over 3k revs Nick clearly feels otherwise, to be fair he did say to me the turbo was set to 0.8 bar of boost and if I wanted to use the booster to push it to 1.3bar that I should get the engine mapped....He was aware that im a novis though so to be honest I never really know what he was on about...still that doesnt mean I cant go over 3k revs.... Not really sure what course of action to persue...first thing to do would be a check of the head gasket...Enfield will be the closest place to me, Im near Lakeside shopping centre... Getting the car to Whifbitz for a FULL inspection and compression test would be a good course of action. Depending on his report you can then pursue any potential legal action for misrepresentation of the car you were sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Where is GT-Cars then, in Dartford? As an old-boy from the taahhnnn I'm interested. It wasn't there three years ago was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gaaables Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 You melted the plugs! thats really, really serious and normally requires a full engine rebuild. Was Nick made aware of this when the car was sold? QUOTE] the plugs melted so thats why i had a rebuild done on the car, but he was well aware this happened previously and that it needed to be mapped so this wouldnt happen again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Mac Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Not really sure what course of action to persue...first thing to do would be a check of the head gasket...Enfield will be the closest place to me, Im near Lakeside shopping centre... My first post - and it's about a HG!! Firstly welcome mate - and no matter what happens with this car, don't let it put you off Supras. My HG was repaired for around the £2.5 - 3.0K mark for the engine (£4.5k in total), although it was quite warped. Personally if it turns out to be a warped head as well, I'd be tempted to try a used engine or at least get someone who really knows Supras to do it, as these heads are quite sensitive to heat. It'll save a lot of grief in the long run checking all you options first before spunking away a load of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Oh by the way I have a little light on the left hand warning light bank...its a yellow car sillouette with lines coming away from the back of the car...looks like a bulb failure light??? And yes this warning light means your back bulbs/fuses are blown.[OOPS][/OOPS] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 My first post - and it's about a HG!! Firstly welcome mate - and no matter what happens with this car, don't let it put you off Supras. My HG was repaired for around the £2.5 - 3.0K mark for the engine (£4.5k in total), although it was quite warped. Personally if it turns out to be a warped head as well, I'd be tempted to try a used engine or at least get someone who really knows Supras to do it, as these heads are quite sensitive to heat. It'll save a lot of grief in the long run checking all you options first before spunking away a load of cash. 4.5k for a head skim and new gasket fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 makes my f**king blood boil with these b*stards ripping people off. jeez welcome mate feel for you but believe me when its sorted it will make you smile from ear to ear;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Mac Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 4.5k for a head skim and new gasket fitted? No, the cost for skimming, lapping in new valves, new valve stem seals and labour came to around £2 - 2.5K. As I had new spark-plugs, timing belt and tensioner, thermostat, radiator, fan and coupler and service done the final bill, including all the associated costs came to around £3.5 - 4.0K. The £4.5K total I gave earlier was off the top of my head - I've since checked all the invoices. My Bad! 2-2.5 is realistic if your head's warped. Mind-you - further to that I am still not satisfied the HG is correct, as I have a gurgling dash and what looks like over-pressure in the coolant system. After talking it through with Chris Wilson, it might be cheaper to get a 2nd hand engine rather than try to sort it out as the heads are very sensitive. Approach with care and get good advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 do we know if his car is actually fubar'd yet though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 £4k Mike......... that garage saw you coming! Who was it? 2nd hand cylinder head (more expensive than some valves and machine work but probably best route overall) - £400 Top end complete gasket set - £100 Head Bolts - £60 Plugs - £10 - £60 Timing Belt Kit inc. tensioner - £100 Thermostat - £10 OEM spec radiator - £150 Fan & Coupler - £50 Service Parts - £100 inc 4-Life red coolant and decent oil / filter So rounding up that's about £1k in parts to do it this way.... labour is time to take one head off and bolt on another then full service. A full days work say 8hrs tops at your average rate of about £50 / hr comes to £400. Total £1,400 Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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