johnny g Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I think Chris Wilson recommends a company called Primary Designs who made the exhausts for his turbo'd 4AGE based racecar. Their work looked exceptional. http://www.primarydesigns.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway Motorsport Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I know them, pristine quality stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The Ti system is a copy of the HKS ti and is fine, its the midpipe that has two 90 degree bends in it, its a terrible fit and not a very good design for flow, also the flanges are to big, Paul has changed the design now and says the new one will fit 100%, i just cant face spending £450+vat he is asking for a new one when this one should have fitted. It's the first I've heard about it being a terrible fit? The 4" DP/MP was originally designed to fit with my own 4" stainless steel exhaust which you knew about correct? Flanges are to big? To big to fit the Ti exhaust you mean? Flow wise, I can't see 90deg bends effecting anything, doesn't seem to have held your engine back at all? The 4" DP/MP has been changed recently, it's now made to fit with the HKS Ti style exhausts and my own 4" exhausts have been changed to fit with the new version of the DP/MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 So let me get this straight your down pipe and mid pipe are form paul and dont fit his own system !!!!!! but now he has made a new one that will fit fine and wonts to charge you ? this is not the first time i remember a post a fue months back where someone had his set up and it did not fit , if thats the case that is shocking custoumer service! What post was that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Turism0 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I thought ETS do a 5" exhaust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I thought it was just the different flange sizes that was the problem anyway? Also I'm sure someone said the HKS Ti and BL exhausts were the same fit, or is that not correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraDan24 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The Ti is ok but the downpipe/midpipe is a terrible fit, sits to far to the passenger side and means the ti wont bolt up where it should, It has two 90 degree bends in it an all, I got it held up with cable ties, it just pisses me off every time i look at the car. It's the first I've heard about it being a terrible fit? The 4" DP/MP was originally designed to fit with my own 4" stainless steel exhaust which you knew about correct? Flanges are to big? To big to fit the Ti exhaust you mean? Flow wise, I can't see 90deg bends effecting anything, doesn't seem to have held your engine back at all? The 4" DP/MP has been changed recently, it's now made to fit with the HKS Ti style exhausts and my own 4" exhausts have been changed to fit with the new version of the DP/MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 these are awesome supposed to be one of the best out there, but seems a abit far lol.. might deliver if you could explain exactly what you want,never kno! http://www.aas-exhausts.co.uk/ I've used these guys before, there work is 1st class. They made the full titanium exhaust on Kevin Huntleys car. It's a vet good fit. There about 30 mins from me but are always crazy busy. Think you need to book in a month or so in advance for ramp time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 http://www.btbexhausts.co.uk/BTB-Exhausts-News/The_Art_of_Noise/120.htm Speak to Joe Ellis. These guys are just about the best! I have seen their work on; a 1965 GT40, 1964 Cobra and a Lola T280 with a Cosworth DFV. The welding is perfect, imo you would struggle to find better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 It's the first I've heard about it being a terrible fit? The 4" DP/MP was originally designed to fit with my own 4" stainless steel exhaust which you knew about correct? Flanges are to big? To big to fit the Ti exhaust you mean? Flow wise, I can't see 90deg bends effecting anything, doesn't seem to have held your engine back at all? The 4" DP/MP has been changed recently, it's now made to fit with the HKS Ti style exhausts and my own 4" exhausts have been changed to fit with the new version of the DP/MP. I never knew till yesterday that the two was not designed to fit together, I would never have bought the Ti system if I knew that, I don't want to fall out over it, I'm just fed up with this exhaust, nothing lines up where it should and I've got it held up with cable ties, I just wish I had stayed full BL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra matt Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 What post was that then? This one paul http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?254097-Downpipe-Fitment-help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I never knew till yesterday that the two was not designed to fit together, I would never have bought the Ti system if I knew that, I don't want to fall out over it, I'm just fed up with this exhaust, nothing lines up where it should and I've got it held up with cable ties, I just wish I had stayed full BL. It was either you or Lee that told me that the BL exhaust was the same as the HKS Ti exhausts. May be there's been some crossed wires along the line somewhere. The problem is its 2 products that weren't at the time made to fit each other. What part have you got held up with cable ties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 This one paul http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?254097-Downpipe-Fitment-help Ah that, not really sure what happened with that downpipe as they are all made from the same jig, it's all fixed now though. Trust me these kits fit, I wouldn't be selling them otherwise. They 4" version has recently been changed slightly to fit with the HKS style exhaust, no other reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) The BL is a similar design to the HKS Ti, basically a straight pipe with minimal bends. Because the mid pipe sits to far to the passenger side the first bracket on the Ti that bolts on won't reach, I'm Going to call simpsons today, hopefully they can just mess about with the mid pipe to get it all fitting nicely, just needs a couple of 45's welding in and a smaller vband to join the Ti. Edited February 24, 2012 by JamieP (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I never knew till yesterday that the two was not designed to fit together, I would never have bought the Ti system if I knew that, I don't want to fall out over it, I'm just fed up with this exhaust, nothing lines up where it should and I've got it held up with cable ties, I just wish I had stayed full BL. And is the DP/MP a terrible fit or is it because it doesn't line up properly with the Ti exhaust? Was the DP/MP ok with the BL exhaust? When Lee fitted my Ti exhaust he said it was a great fit apart from the issue with the flanges being different which is easy to sort out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The BL is a similar design to the HKS Ti, basically a straight pipe with minimal bends. Because the mid pipe sits to far to the passenger side the first bracket on the Ti that bolts on won't reach, I'm Going to call simpsons today, hopefully they can just mess about with the mid pipe to get it all fitting nicely, just needs a couple of 45's welding in and a smaller vband to join the Ti. They must be slightly different, it only takes a very small difference to throw it all out. I have a S/S v band flange that will match up with the Ti exhaust if you need one. All you need then is an HKS clamp to match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Paul, don't worry about it, I will get it sorted myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Paul, don't worry about it, I will get it sorted myself. I do worry about it, I dont like unhappy customers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra matt Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Ah that, not really sure what happened with that downpipe as they are all made from the same jig, it's all fixed now though. Trust me these kits fit, I wouldn't be selling them otherwise. They 4" version has recently been changed slightly to fit with the HKS style exhaust, no other reason. yes but he had to pay you to put it right !!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 yes but he had to pay you to put it right !!!!!!!!!! There was a reason for that, cant remember why now but there was. As far as I know there was never a problem with Chas over it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 yes but he had to pay you to put it right !!!!!!!!!! I'll have to talk to Chas about it, sounds like there is a problem I dont know about. If he isn't happy that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 BL are releasing their 4" system in Titanium very soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbuddy Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Ooooo, what will the price be for 4BL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Ooooo, what will the price be for 4BL? They'll be dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?657016-MK4-Boost-Logic-Exhaust-SALE!!!! Price TBC But they have a sale on the steel 4" because of its release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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