dude Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 This is gonna be interesting dude, the cars sound like they will be identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan294 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Started trying to sort the rear spoiler, these cars need something to keep them stable and exert some downforce but without slowing them down too much, even a stock rear spoiler would prob cost around 10 mph so we use Pro Mod style rear wings, i was going to go with a style like Stephanes car from supraforums until we looked at the design and decided it will actually work opposite to whats intended, the stock flip of the tailgate will swirl the air over the spoiler in a vortex this will try and lift the rear of the car !!!!I ve pm'd Stephane about this and he is waiting to see my design Dude, you need to sack your painter! The door is a different colour to the rest of the car!! - Gonna be interesting this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Dude, you need to sack your painter! The door is a different colour to the rest of the car!! - Gonna be interesting this one! Thats ok it matches the front wings !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 This is a tricky area however It may pay to add vortex generators across the roof and across the rear spoiler , the spoiler ends ( wing fences) to prevent air slipping off the end need shaping into curves and blending into the spoiler at the corners. The addition of a true wing on top in clean air would aid downforce but at the cost of drag my 2p worth http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/corporate/about_us/technology/review/e/pdf/2004/16E_03.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Love Stephanes car! The stock looking sideskirts extended down look immense...if a trader were to make these I'd have a set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartW Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 This is a tricky area however It may pay to add vortex generators across the roof and across the rear spoiler , the spoiler ends ( wing fences) to prevent air slipping off the end need shaping into curves and blending into the spoiler at the corners. The addition of a true wing on top in clean air would aid downforce but at the cost of drag my 2p worth http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/corporate/about_us/technology/review/e/pdf/2004/16E_03.pdf that's a helpful article, i have seen those stick on fins before like the evo has, they are proven to help. not sure if the supra would benefit as they are pretty slippery on the roof line anyway. My new build (same as leon's JPS proven 7.26 191mph supra) has a rear diffuser that channels air centrally and downwards to reduce the drag, dude what's yours like underneath at the rear? my plans are to suck it and see re bootlid wings. I hear you can buy special dye that you paint on the car and do a run..it leaves streaks that highlight the vortexes, high and low pressures. Toyota would have done lots of wind tunnel testing and in stock UK TT guise these cars where like what 170mph capable with a run up. also sure the boot spoiler was only an optional extra? In SE the favoured spiler is the raised flat with side panels, with a small vertical lip on he trailing edge, Brian payne's 7 sec street mustang had a boot extension webster's fabricated spoiler added part way through the season, he has suspension logging and saw massive gains in top end stabitly with no top end speed losses. it doesn't look right but worked well for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 that's a helpful article, i have seen those stick on fins before like the evo has, they are proven to help. not sure if the supra would benefit as they are pretty slippery on the roof line anyway. My new build (same as leon's JPS proven 7.26 191mph supra) has a rear diffuser that channels air centrally and downwards to reduce the drag, dude what's yours like underneath at the rear? my plans are to suck it and see re bootlid wings. I hear you can buy special dye that you paint on the car and do a run..it leaves streaks that highlight the vortexes, high and low pressures. Toyota would have done lots of wind tunnel testing and in stock UK TT guise these cars where like what 170mph capable with a run up. also sure the boot spoiler was only an optional extra? In SE the favoured spiler is the raised flat with side panels, with a small vertical lip on he trailing edge, Brian payne's 7 sec street mustang had a boot extension webster's fabricated spoiler added part way through the season, he has suspension logging and saw massive gains in top end stabitly with no top end speed losses. it doesn't look right but worked well for him. Everyone I have spoken to has said I cannot run the car without a rear wing !!!! Drag spoilers are slightly different in that you only want to stabilise the car and not take too much speed off by ramming it onto the track with a big wing. Im pretty sure our design is spot on, have a look at these. http://www.edquay.com/spoilers/gallery/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm not sure what it's actually called Stuart, but they refer to that flow vis paint a lot in F1. Essentially Dye mixed with paraffin if I understand it correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartW Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Hey Dude...Where's your car?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Hey Dude...Where's your car?? Been a bit too busy to do much Stu, we will run it this year but prob miss the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JPS Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 any progress dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Its pencilled in for a bit of a blitz pretty soon, Austec are going to buy most of the parts so I have had to wait for this city link contract to go thru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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