Rob_Mitchell Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 ahhhhhhh scott i have been waiting to hear from you on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadeS Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 ahhhhhhh scott i have been waiting to hear from you on here Is it good or bad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 i work on the same principals as gixer, i did it for around the same price , running the same boost and its more than enough power for road use. im happy with it apart from when im causing problems with it. if you want to chase big number , then sell and buy a tt6, if you want your na to be faster (a lot faster by the way) na-t is good . my opinions summary. sub 400bhp low boost setup on a bugit na-t worth it if you want more than 8/9 psi and bigger numbers get a tt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadeS Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Can 400bhp be achieved with stock injectors and na head gasket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 400bhp on 330cc injectors? Nah, wouldn't have thought so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 id say no on stock injectors , it can be achived on stock h/g and bigger injectors but you will need water or meth injection to stop pre ignition but its a risky way of doing things and not reccomended. if you want 400 or more bhp get the lower comp tt engine.or add a 1.2/1.3mm decompression steel gasket to the ge motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Scott Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'm still running stock headgasket as only 6psi boost. I wouldn't consider using the standard injectors tho as they will be maxed out. I picked up some mkiii turbo ones off the mkiii forum for £40 delivered then had them ultra sonic cleaned and flow tested for around £9 per injector. Easy enough to make your own resister pack up too. It can be done on a budget and safely! The american NA-T forum is great but they don't know anythin about emanage blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgee2jz Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 use a tt headgasket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 use a tt headgasket are the tt gasketts 1.2mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 more or less, although everyone assumes thicker is better... they couldnt be more wrong! you speak to someone who actualy knows about the NA design and they will tell you the exact same thing.. There are alot more complications with going single turbo on an NA to consider than there are on TT especialy when wanted to push for big numbers. If i were you hade id just take the TT lump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 agreed but imho 350> na-t is quicker than tt, its a sharper responce of the high compression coupled with the short 5 speed makes a great sprinter and i nice drive wher as i found the throttle of the tt on stock twins was "damper" at the bottom end of the revs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Probly will be in all honesty but the minute you start throwing thicker HG's on you lose your high compression so the responce drops. To thick a HG and you end up with lower CR numbers than a TT and the TTs is low enough as it is but IMO thats just a safety margine toyota went with for those idiots who run cheap fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 pricisly , thats why i think na-t is a good idea for a sharp low boost car but if you want big power 400+, tt is the option. if you intend on dropping the cr then just buy the tt motor and it also has the aditional cooling jets for the pistons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt _Aero top_ Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 cheap fuel Cheap fuel ...... ha if only ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 it also has the aditional cooling jets for the pistons when was the last time you actualy thought 'man i wish i had oil squirters' honestly. There nice to have but engines can service without Cheap fuel ...... ha if only ... crap fuel then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 when was the last time you actualy thought 'man i wish i had oil squirters' honestly. There nice to have but engines can service without i havent but im sure if i was running 30psi and had it on a track for a thrashing they serve a purpose even if it is only a small one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadeS Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 I have been wondering about Turbo kits from clubna-t.com as I have not heard anything of Dazzi from last few days. After adding everything up i should finish up in 2k. Na HG and stock injectors. Turbo should maxed up and I would hope for 320-350 bhp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Turbo wont be maxed out at such low boost. Your injectors on the other hand will be or very close. I dont recommend NA-T for people who dont fully understand how much difference there is between the 2 engines but if thats the road you take then good luck and hope all goes well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt _Aero top_ Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Is there a list anywhere of ALL the parts required to do an NA-T conversion . I've tried my friend the search button but not found anything . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadeS Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 Hehehe... I just get email of person who is selling his Soarer 2.5TT. If I would think about it it would be the best way so far. That is very tough one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 manual or auto and what year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadeS Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 I think is 1991 wit turbos replace 15k miles ago. If I'll go and have a look I will know more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Is there a list anywhere of ALL the parts required to do an NA-T conversion . I've tried my friend the search button but not found anything . iv just started a new group for all those interested on the subject http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/group.php?groupid=49 hope to get infor on there soon and hopfully lots of input from different perspectivs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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