supras4life Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Razza you plonker!!! lol I obviously dont want it to get worse but what is the worst that could happen? how long has it been like that razza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I obviously dont want it to get worse but what is the worst that could happen? http://www.baynews9.com/images/news/2007/8/27/lgbollea1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supras4life Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 :(:(:( n e 1 no of any racing hearts forsale??? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 dont worry your little heads about it!!! Charming. You'll go far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartworm Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 http://www.baynews9.com/images/news/2007/8/27/lgbollea1.jpg Harsh, fairly makes a point though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 :(:(:( n e 1 no of any racing hearts forsale??? lol How much do you want to spend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 even though the poor guy had rotten start to the ownership atleast a fellow member helped him out so he knows hes part of a big caring community! hats off to you headhunter!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 It's been like that for most of this year with no issues, the difference isn't massive and the wheel size is the same, so same amount of traction on both corners.... Seriously what issues would this cause though as it didn't seem to cause me any? Would understand if the size was different leading to different amounts of rubber on each corner (probably cause you to go in circles lol), but this isn't the case here, and the offsets were only slightly out. The guy at Bracknell Tyre place pointed it out when I put new ones on, but said it shouldn't affect performance. Otherwise I would never have driven it out of there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Ideally CW would comment but he doesnt come in here. Its not meant to be like that, or they would sell random offsets in a 'set' of wheels. If its not meant to be like that then its best to get it back how it should be. It 'shouldnt effect performance' from a tyre monkey might be ok on a 1.0 fiesta, but not really on a Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire148 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 You might want to consider what your insurance company would say if you needed to make a claim ... if they spotted the difference then they may not want to pay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I know it's not meant to be like that, I'm just curious as to what affect it would have on safety. It wasn't ideal but I didn't have much choice at the time due to them not making Racing Harts anymore and I couldn't afford £2k for a new set of wheels (as nice as those). My niaviety (sp?) at the time didn't pick it up. I'd driven them for a while before I changed the tyres, and both before and after I felt no noticeable difference, but then I never raced it, and maybe I couldn't detect if it had altered handling.. Instead of speculation which I'm sure this thread will turn into, does someone have any facts on how this would cause issues? Remembering total width of wheels and tyres are the same, and offset wasn't far out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/wheel-offset.htm Read that and think for a minute about the centre line of one wheel being further from the car on one side than the other. Would you drive the car with a twisted chassis? Effectively that is what is happening, same width or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 ok, understand that, but would an inch (think that's the difference, Dean would have to confirm) make a big difference (no puns please;)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 ok, understand that, but would an inch (think that's the difference, Dean would have to confirm) make a big difference (no puns please;)) An inch is a lot in terms of chassis dynamics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Do you recall the offset difference? Are the rim widths the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire148 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 If the difference can be spotted just by looking at the wheel then that's a HUGE amount of difference to the handling !! You may not have noticed it due to the suspension working overtime to negate the difference ... and the tyres would have worn very quickly at the peak loaded areas until the loading reduced. I would remove both wheels immediately and not drive the car until it was sorted. This is far too dangerous to even consider anything else and could lead to a high speed blowout resulting in death. Please dont play with peoples lives like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire148 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Razza, you have PM mate.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 but the dish is reduced by the amount of the offset, so the tyres are touching the ground in the same place in relation to the chassis, it's not as if they are flat alloys and one is sticking out further than the other on the car. I.e the offset might be an inch different, but the amount of dish out from that point is reduced by the same amount, so the far edge of the wheel is the same distance from the hub and ends up the same distance in from the wheel arch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I know what you mean mate, can't see it being much of a problem to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 For info the car passed an MOT in April AFTER the wheels were changed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Your studs will be under a different load to the other wheels and ultimately no matter how it's excused or explained, that wheel is in a different relative location compared to the other wheel on that axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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