Bobbeh Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 They don't show the Supra *really* doing it's thing but they highlight how much less body roll you get when you sort out the UK suspension I know what you mean about the roll, but its only initial, as soon as it starts leaning it sticks. I felt confident going round the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gough Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I agree with Bobbeh. As standard, the supra does show fair bit of body roll, but that shouldn't be confused with low levels of grip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason m Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 http://www.jgtc.net/ex/gtc_cham/1999/cha99_7/997Race_ph/036supra.jpg Mate - where did you get that pic ? - any bigger ones ? ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Try http://www.jgtc.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I know what you mean about the roll, but its only initial, as soon as it starts leaning it sticks. I felt confident going round the ring. Agreed, it's not a scary "gonna fall over" roll like my Punto but it's definately a little soft for my tastes, the pics from the day made it look a lot worse but the handling was still amazing on the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I know what you mean, I was like 'hmm when I first started going into corners fast, but then realised it stuck so well once it levelled out. How have you modified yours? harder springs? I find the ride is harsh even on stock suspension now with my 18s on. I cant be bothered altering it further right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I've got KYB shocks and Eibach springs, it's lost a lot of the refinement from the standard setup but it's a lot more composed when pushing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getrag Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Every person thats been in the car around a long sweeping A or motorway road has commented on how flat it is. And the turn in is very sharp. All this with Tein's of course. The one downside to stiffer suspension is bumps while accellerating. Go over one and the rears just spin up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250horses Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Getrag - Why havent you got rid of them nasty head lamp eyebrows yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getrag Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 They are, gotta get me a new avatar Hows the car, havent spoken in a while? http://www.showoffyourcar.com//cars/TOYOTA/8626.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250horses Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 oooooooooooh Hamish that looks better me, all is well - did you guys know that supras dont work in the snow unless you drive in reverse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getrag Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 lol, I had to turn around yesterday as I couldnt get up a hill. Was might funny spinning around though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 They are, gotta get me a new avatar Hows the car, havent spoken in a while? http://www.showoffyourcar.com//cars/TOYOTA/8626.JPG i quite liked those eyebrows. you didnt throw them away did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Roadholding vs handling. Most people who ask this question aren't sure what they are asking!. Roadholding = how a car drives while in grip Handling = how a car drives beyond the grip limit. fwiw I find dry roadholding amazing, wet you need to be careful with the loud pedal. Handling in all respects is amazing, superb for pitch, balance, and predictability. IMO this can all change with shyte tyres, wrong suspension geometry, and a crap driver. hope this helps. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Roadholding vs handling. Most people who ask this question aren't sure what they are asking!. Roadholding = how a car drives while in grip Handling = how a car drives beyond the grip limit. I don't agree. There are plenty of ride and handling characteristics that make a car a joy or a pain to drive that happen well before the limit of grip. Turn-in, bump steer, torque-steer, tramlining, body pitch and roll to name but a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Nice video's Michael, out of interest, what exaust do you have as it has a good sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I don't agree. There are plenty of ride and handling characteristics that make a car a joy or a pain to drive that happen well before the limit of grip. Turn-in, bump steer, torque-steer, tramlining, body pitch and roll to name but a few. Exactly, couldn't agree more. And it's REALLY easy to mod a Supra suspension or wheel / tyre package and make the car a lot worse than a stock one. I see this every week, sadly, with Supras and loads of other cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Nice video's Michael, out of interest, what exaust do you have as it has a good sound? Blitz NuR Spec with a pair Mr Wilson's decat pipes - sounds lovely on that clip doesn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I don't agree. There are plenty of ride and handling characteristics that make a car a joy or a pain to drive that happen well before the limit of grip. Turn-in, bump steer, torque-steer, tramlining, body pitch and roll to name but a few. You miss my point completely. How the car is in or out of grip is two different subjects as many drivers dont want to break traction, other love to drift, I just wanted to clarify the question. I made an "overview" of what they terms mean. My original source of info was the descriptions of Howard Walker who has reviewed 100's of cars. Maybe he is way off the mark, what do you think? Who has torque steer in a RWD car? not a big issue IMO, In FWD, now that's a different story.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 it's REALLY easy to mod a Supra suspension or wheel / tyre package and make the car a lot worse than a stock one. I see this every week, sadly, with Supras and loads of other cars. So true I am changing back to my 17" next week. Handling and 17" on a Supra is a great mix IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Actually 16s are best - 17s are a compromise with looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Skyline........purple R33............yeah, now that I like :-) car i went to buy.......got there an hour late, missed it, ended up with a Supra. Now I have poured so much into the Supra, I'm stuck lol. Bayside Blue R34 some day! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo Posted February 25, 2005 Author Share Posted February 25, 2005 Chiefgroover...This also was one of my choices.(I had a R33gtr lined up)..BUT...After much research and many,many telephone calls,I found out,Thay spin the bigend bearing on number 5 cylinder...And needing a £6500 engine rebuild...I phoned the experts to ask when i could expect this senario to show its evil head...The reply was.....Quote-Its a lottery,The more the engine was tuned,The more it happens....Quote-its not bad in the GTS models standard...More common on the GTR`s.Becouse of the BHP increase...And the expectations of this happening goes up as the BHP does....This put me off the skyline....As one specialist had 6 Skyline engines in his garage requiring engine re-builds...And to be truthfull.....I cannot play a £6500 lottery... As stated..This is the words from "Specialists"..Not me... I could`nt take the risk......Kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 You up the risks with any modded car, but I dont think the stock skyline engine can take the abuse a Supras can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Kevo, looks like my miss was my mercy lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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