Guest ETS Michael Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 RHD i'm not sure, we don't have them here. We would need to get a couple pics to see, but we have a full fabrication shop so it shouldn't be a problem to make something work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 would do but you have to change every bloody thing, gear box clutch drive shafts too much hassel mate plus finding a bloke to fit it mega money just not worth it You may be right but you change them for a reason, the extra power is asking your stock NA parts to do something they were never intended to do and may cost more in the long run sorting them out when they break, I have been down the modding route soooooo many times with cars and it really is not worth doing it on the cheap, it will either be dissappointing or unreliable, trust me I have thrown fortunes away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 You may be right but you change them for a reason, the extra power is asking your stock NA parts to do something they were never intended to do and may cost more in the long run sorting them out when they break, I have been down the modding route soooooo many times with cars and it really is not worth doing it on the cheap, it will either be dissappointing or unreliable, trust me I have thrown fortunes away i'm not wanting mega power mate 300bhp will do me i'm sure it can handle that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ETS Michael Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Hi Michael, did you go with the Stage 2 fuel system as well, and what sort of bhp numbers are you seeing with your spec? Stage 1, i'm running an SAFC and FMU. I'm going to get bigger injectors, and maybe an aem then hit the dyno. Right now our dyno is going into the ground as we speak, so I should have some numbers soon. The numbers on our site are from a MKIV Supra with an auto and 5 speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 i'm not wanting mega power mate 300bhp will do me i'm sure it can handle that much In that case the TT conversion is FAR more cost effective. It's £3-3.5k for a complete transplant (engine, box, axle, driveshafts, ECU, loom, etc) including fitting. This will give a base of 320bhp, with 430bhp available at only another £800 (BPU). The NA-T will cost significantly more and will not have much future potential unless you want to spend big money. I'm not trying to p*ss on your bonfire here, just trying to put things in perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ETS Michael Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I think his budget is around £1,000 - It's going to be hard to find a complete NA-T or GTE Swap for that price. With that budget the XS Power is the only kit that fits the bill. I would recommend saving a little more and getting a quality NA-T kit or GTE Swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 In that case the TT conversion is FAR more cost effective. It's £3-3.5k for a complete transplant (engine, box, axle, driveshafts, ECU, loom, etc) including fitting. This will give a base of 320bhp, with 430bhp available at only another £800 (BPU). The NA-T will cost significantly more and will not have much future potential unless you want to spend big money. I'm not trying to p*ss on your bonfire here, just trying to put things in perspective. i really do see what your saying mate but it's a lot of dosh to find,i'm happy going with going the na-t thanks for your help homer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 What is you NA worth do you think in its current spec ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 What is you NA worth do you think in its current spec ?? i payed 5200 a year ago i'll be very very very lucky to get 3500 now i suppose see what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I think his budget is around £1,000 - It's going to be hard to find a complete NA-T or GTE Swap for that price. With that budget the XS Power is the only kit that fits the bill. I would recommend saving a little more and getting a quality NA-T kit or GTE Swap. £1k That might just buy the kit, but with the fabrication costs and all the replacement parts needed with the XS kit it's a non starter unless he has £3-4k more available. Chris, have you seen the break down of the other parts needed? ECU, boost controller, mapping, clutch, flywheel, diff, injectors, fuel pump, lines, fuel rail, fpr, plugs, oil, filter, IC pipes, induction, boost gauge, afr gauge, oil feed, oil drain, etc. There's £3k there alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 £1k That might just buy the kit, but with the fabrication costs and all the replacement parts needed with the XS kit it's a non starter unless he has £3-4k more available. Chris, have you seen the break down of the other parts needed? ECU, boost controller, mapping, clutch, flywheel, diff, injectors, fuel pump, lines, fuel rail, fpr, plugs, oil, filter, IC pipes, induction, boost gauge, afr gauge, etc. There's £3k there alone. yes but you don't need all that if you keep it on low boost, thats what i'm saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 yes but you don't need all that if you keep it on low boost, thats what i'm saying You need almost all of it (if boost is very low then remove the diff), but the rest are needed Where are you getting your information from? All I can recommend is you build a list of all the parts you *think* you need, price them up and then post them on here. £1k won't even touch the surface. Just as an example, what ECU and injectors are you planning on using, who is the mapper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 You need almost all of it (if boost is very low then remove the diff), but the rest are needed christ lol oh well my car is off the road for a year anyway mate so i'll get what ever it needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Chris, Please listen to Homer. From what I've read on here NA-T costs approx £4-5K to get it working right. You can't just add the turbo kit, you absolutely NEED all the other stuff Homer mentioned above AND you really should upgrdae the other stuff like gear box, drive shafts etc, as they won't take the incressed power for long (if at all) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 right guys somthing has come up,a TT might be on the cards watch this space :):) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Homer talks wise words. Chris unless you are prepared to spend £1k's (many) on the conversion to do it properly, don't do it at all, the cost of the kit is just a fraction of the overall costs involved. As Homer says, there are a LOT of other parts you NEED to do the install, you cannot simply bolt on a kit. Selling the NA and buying a TT is by far the cheapest and most sensible option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 Na-t Is Now Off Cheers Guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_NW Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 You made the right decision mate. I had a budget of 4K to do my conversion but ended up spending over 10K. I shouldve listned to the likes of Homer, Bromby etc.. in the first place but was all too late when I realised my 5 speed box could only take 300bhp and even the standard clutch started to slip on 0.8 bar boost. Good luck with your TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 You made the right decision mate. I had a budget of 4K to do my conversion but ended up spending over 10K. I shouldve listned to the likes of Homer, Bromby etc.. in the first place but was all too late when I realised my 5 speed box could only take 300bhp and even the standard clutch started to slip on 0.8 bar boost. Good luck with your TT cheers mate :)takes a while to go in but i do listed in the end lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markssupra Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Good decision Chris, think very carefully before spending ££££'s on something thats not up to your expections. This is the best place to get advice, you know it makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 so whats plan b? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 plan b has just flu out the window lol lol oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 plan c? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_controller Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 good descision chris, i think you'll be much happier with the tt lump mate, buy the lump with your 1k and watch on the forum to pick up all the other parts you need. If she's off the road for a year you'll have plenty of time to collect the parts and do the conversion right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 good descision chris, i think you'll be much happier with the tt lump mate, buy the lump with your 1k and watch on the forum to pick up all the other parts you need. If she's off the road for a year you'll have plenty of time to collect the parts and do the conversion right. yeah that! you could probably get everything easily for around £1400 possibly less. and if you get a tt autobox too you wont have to worry about the transmission going bang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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