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They are engine oil coolers.. but apparently it makes no differnence from what ive been told.. id sayeven less as the ATF runs colder than engine oil maybe? I guess it runs more pressure though. PS Does anyone know what temp (centigrade) ATF gets up to? Im going to bung a temp gauge on in the initial stages to make sure but need to know what range i need. Adam... if its shinier it works better.. goes without saying .

I've now found this one below.. its 13x5x2inch and 13 row. This will surely do the job, and best of all its only £30 !!! Expert opinion anyone? http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_ed0d76f93ee8bd1b7d5c407032ac1154/i-1.JPG

Blimey if anything i thought id have to go bigger ! The pen in the second pic is on the floor so it makes the rad look bigger, the top pic is better for comparison. At the mo mine is in the rad as well at present (similar box to yours)... but the rad is being ditched and hence i need an ATF cooler (which is a good upgrade by itself).

Hi all.. need to fit an ATF cooler and have this one lying around (its an oil cooler but presumably okay for ATF). Do you reckon its too small for the autobox? Its going to be running between 360 and 390bhp flywheel. The size is 260x120x35 and its a 10 row. What you reckon? Cheers adi http://www.jzasupra.com/pics/rad.jpg http://www.jzasupra.com/pics/Untitled-1.jpg

yep i'd aggree.. giles knows his stuff and is very helpful. Plus if you're part of UK supras you get a 10% discount.

so it was the seals in the end then? Try http://www.turbotechnics.com , been doing turbos since 85.

look exactly the same.. only the internals are different. The advantages are that you will have the potential for big power, and you'll have more power than the stock units even if you dont play with them too much. Disadvantages.. more lag (higher up the rev range before the turbos comeonline, butonce they do you'll get more power).

One more thing.. if it is seals (as it looks like it is ) it will get worse very quickly (within a couple of weeks and it'll be pouring out). Im sure youre going to get them done asap anyway though. Toyota will be very expensive but i guess if its your only choice then you have to go with them. I wouldnt like fancy shelling out the labout for toyota to take them off and refit them though. The turbo repair is best done by a reputable turbo uotlet, but in theory any good garage can take them off and replace them for you, so long as youre sure of their reputation for work like this. One more bit, if you dont mind shelling out on thre or four hundred more.. go hybrids.. you wont regret it. adi

yep i must admit im slightly biased towards saying this will be turbo seals, as i had it happen to me. It could be other things and my opinion is based on the assumption that the rest of the car is okay. Have a poke around and a fiddle, get it checked over completely.. etc.

Beware the toyota dealer.. theyre very often run by muppets who will misdiagnose your car and get you to replace far more components that are needed, and cost you much more money. Some are okay, but most are awful.. having said that you could be lucky and get a mechanic who knows his stuff. Have you a reputable japanese tuning shop in belfast area who could look at it for you?

yep it could be other things.. definately dont take my word for it.. blocked breather pipes could also cause it, or a shot one way valve.. but this normally displays other symptoms as well. Get it checked out properly is the best bit of advice. Take it to someone who *knows* what theyre doing.. not just any old garage or tuning shop. Leon is in Milton keynes i think, and Chris Wilson is in Chester.

Thats providing he bought it from a dealer of course.

PS Stem seals produce different symptoms.. but if yo want to rule out things like valve seals and rings it may be worth popping it up to chris Wilson in Shopshire to give it a compression test and checkover before you start. Obviously he'll charge to look at it but its worth it for peace of mind... im 90% sure this is turbo seals though... but dont take my word for it.

The turbos need to be stripped for the seals to be replaced.. but whilst they do this they recondition the turbos for you so the price is still around £1100... its not a job for the home mechanic as it requires specialist tools. Personally id go for the oppurtunity of fitting hybrids... someone on here can put you in touch with Leon who builds very good hybrids, or try somewhere like http://www.turbotechnics.com . Removal/refitting yourself isnt difficult but is a big job (several hours to remove them). As long as youre handy with a spanner and follow the right procedure you'll be fine.. but do it at your own risk.. if you get it wrong when refitting you can blow your turbos again within a few revs of the engine. I was in a similar position to you, had a mate in the trade so we did it ourselves. Im sure theres online guides for the 2JZ engine (mine is a 1JZ, very similar but different). Have a look here for a rundown of the procedure on a 1JZ to give you an idea. Bear in mind the engine isnt exactly the same.

Still got warranty? Take it back.. youre turbo seals are shot. Smoke on idle as youre describing is a a classic symptom of turbo seal failure. Normally when sitting at traffic lights, no smoke during a run... always after a few seconds of coming to a stop. If you have no warranty...say hello to a big bill for replacements. Both turbos have to be stripped and rebuilt. Dont be too disheartened though, think of it as a good excuse to fit hybrids. Bad luck.. know how you feel..mine went last year after owning the car for only four months. Dont mean to scare you but you might as well know the whole of it.. youre looking at (for the pair) £1100+ for stock units and between £1400-1800 for hybrids depending on what builds/company you go for. Labour will be between £400 and 550 if you get a garage to remove/refit them. There are ways to cut the costs though, by removing and reftitting them yourself etc.

Get 16 litres... they reckon you'll need up to 12 but it cant hurt to have another can in reserve. I was advised to get 16 by my autobox place, glad i did as i now have a can spare and can refill as and when required, or keep it for a partial flush.

Guilty as charged but i think i have less room on the 1JZ than you do on the 2JZ. I've done it about six times so far and nothing has dropped off, but i'll use something else in the future.

order a new 'motor from toyota' , probably around £900.

Keep an eye on it.. unfortunately for you an early sign of turbo seals is smoke on idling after a boosting session. It normally happens a few seconds to a minute after coming to a stop, doesnt produce any noticeable smoke when driving, and doesnt give smoke on startup. I'm not saying thats what it is, but it certainly has the symptoms. Perhaps the thinner oil caused it.

Drilling and tapping is fine but i dont fancy removing the thing to do it.. so i might just tee into a piece. There are some vacuum size pipes and some a little bit thicker.. for now im going into the vacuum pipe but i can get a better connection on the thicker one.. i'll post a pic later just in case it isnt a pressure/vacuum pipe. Cheers for the help !! Oh, and apparently yes, its a filter.

Hmmm.. i've been advised on anothe forum not to tap into the MAP pressure line (just to be on the safe side) so im considering taking it off another line. Are *all* the vacuum hoses that come off the inlet manifold related to pressure? Is there any one in particular i should go for?

well, the nylon pipe feeding the gauge is clear and wont be attached to the filter, so i guess if it gets full of crap over the next few weeks we can assume it was for that purpose.

yep.. same for me when i checked! Could mean anything really !

hmmm.. when i blow through it there is a restriction of sorts.. id go with the smoothing theory myself.. but either way i guess i gotta refit it... i dont think it'll be too much of a pain to swap the position to the top (the only place it'll fit) so i may as well put it on. Better safe than sorry i guess.. cheers adi Just thought, i'll look on the EPC and see what its called !