I can see your point John, I have been around since 2002 and honestly the first couple of years when I first joined up was such a scream, I remember I used to spend 12 hours at work on here and go home and log on again, the content was so different, now Im lucky if I can stretch forum life out much more then a few hours a day to kill at work, but I still have a passion for Supra's and thats what keeps me going, but its different for me, Im just a user, you're the owner/founder and if I was in your position I would be very much the same, could I be arsed to keep doing it. I dont know how much involvement you have these days, Im guessing very little but this place is still valued highly to many and of great use to many also. I think its just one of those classic time moves on and we're all getting older, where as now Im happy to be sat in instead of tearing it up with mates, you change, so dont get too dis-heartened by it all. But Im with you, albeit a few steps behind, I can really take this place or leave it now and not be too bothered, meets Im not overly bothered about anymore and havent done one in a while now, but this place has to carry for the new generation despite what your views on them are, yeah they are younger and that might show in their posts but times change unfortunately and guess you have to adapt or fall by the way side, blimey sounds like your about to die lol.....