chilli

glad to hear that. 5.9k is way too cheap what else would you get to even come close for that money?

exactly, and allowing you more power than the tyres can deal with is what makes things worse not better...

has anyone on here ever lost it because RLTC has made things worse for them rather than better? that's kinda what is being suggested on here, I wonder if there is any evidence of it because there are loads of cases where it has helped out (and lets face it we are only going to hear about the crashes not the times when something like RLTC silently went about its job and saved what could have turned nasty). remember RLTC doesn't cut all the power (like stock TC), only enough to keep traction. So if you are in the slide you have enough power to get the car balanced again - it will just stop you adding too much power and spining the wheels up even more and making things worse - this is a good thing not a bad thing! of course everyone should concentrate 100% all of the time (although how many people can maintain 100% race mode concentration all of the time? It's very tiring after an hour or twos driving) nethertheless, whatever the case accidents happen and anyone who thinks it could never happen to them is a fool tbh couldn't agree more that you still need to know how to drive and handle the car first though. RLTC is something to help stop you get into the situation when unexpected things happen - but you can still find yourself in a slide for other reasons and when that happens you have to know how to deal with it, there are no effective gadgets for that - except the one in your head

yeah generally the only way is to find a second hand dead laptop going cheap - but the screens are probably the most common things to go so it's a long shot... you could still use it more as a desktop machine with an external screen but if it's old it's probably not worth it anyway, won't even be powerful enough to mess around with

I'm feeling it lol - it must be very traumatic

hmmm maybe too many voters are lol

look at this, no comparison ( but the research is fun )

I don't get it lol Kate is so plain looking, her face is fairly average she could be anyone. You guys must just be looking at her half naked body taste is more exlusive than I thought

I think car electronics such as TC can cause issues, look at the supra stock TC system, it is dangerous and you are better off without it. Same can't be said about a tried and tested, dedicated aftermarket product that has had a lot of time and development put into it OEM traction control is generally a kinda belt and braces hand holding overkill that has to cater to the lowest common denominator - it might be alright for your mum or gran but don't expect it to cut the mustard in a serious application

but she scrubs up alright

Must admit Chalize did let herself go at one stage when filming for monster ...

lol a small dedicated embedded real time system like the controller for RLTC is nothing like Windows or any other general purpose OS. Tust me I've worked on both... Most people trust abs to the point where you'd rather have it (but of course not rely on it) I think there are many more people crashing without RLTC than with it but experiencing a badly timed RLTC fault that prevents the unit from functioning in a way that could have saved them

amen! that's how I want to play but I just wanted to get a grounding first before I go off and do my own thing... if I get stuck I'll be pm-ing you then if you don't mind

wow every month! how long you been playing in total then animal? shame you are not more local, I might need some tuition to get me started quicker without picking up bad habits... I have a copy of "Drums - crash course" by pete riley here to get me started. this kit I've bought has a mesh head snare (most importand drum) and can be upgraded with all mesh in time (will do that when I'm good enough to justify it).

maybe you should pop a leaflet through the letterbox next door. Get a Roland V-Drums or Yamaha DT-Express leaflet and pop it through. Suble

hmmm maybe get a run around car and keep the supra for fun?

exactly, for me it is a life/car saving catch all when I'm driving normally and something unexpected might catch me out. Now I concentrate a lot when driving (to the point I don't even like talking too much sometimes lol) and I always try to expect the unexpected, I'm very analog and smooth when I drive, especially in the wet and I've been driving fast rwd cars since I was 17 and yet I'm 100% convinced I could get caught out at some stage. I think we all have to accept we are not perfect. After all, this is what 'accidents' are. 'I didn't realise it would happen', now I know I wish I had rltc... etc Been on the forum 2 years and seen it so often it kinda speaks for itself. Learn to drive AND get RLTC - it's not one or the other! (learn to drive properly first though of course lol)

it's electronic and I have excellent headphones too

Any digital use of the accelerator, epecially on a powerful rwd car is asking for trouble. No one has ever said RLTC is a silver bullet or corrects for bad driving though have they? however the most common reason for losing it in a supra is applying too much power and loosing the back end - and then the panic lift off pendulum etc errors that occur afterwards make it much worse and you risk losing control... what I would say is that RLTC does help there in a way you might not realise. rather than: a) putting down way too much power, the rear stepping out, the driver lifting off violently and possibly getting into more trouble. b) with RLTC you can keep your foot down and let RLTC feather the power. When I hear it cutting in I then can feather the throttle further. However because RLTC never let the power get way too high, even lifting off is much less dramatic than without out it. The car doesn't get into the a) above (unless you really push it too far) in the first place and the balance of the car is always much better, the whole thing is smooth not voilent. Still there is no substitute for learning to drive and being able to handle the car, but we can't all be in race mode every second of the day... The biggest problem with the stock TT system is that the transition to #2 turbo coming online is a massive step in power and balance on the car. Something like RLTC serves to smooth and limit this and really does help keep the car more balanced and under control. PS: Since when did Clarkson know what he is talking about? lol

Chief - Ok then with the net and all, collaborative working is easy. I write songs also and used to play the guitar (not much anymore because I like to dabble in mostly electronic music). I could do the drums, bass and keyboards and you could lay down the satriani guitar. Need a band name though... Gareth - There is no denying that a real kit is an awesome thing to have. If I get really good I could see myself wanting one but I'm going to be happy with the electronic kit for a long time I think and it suits what I play better you should get that kit from firebox - it might be the start of something great!

Chalk and cheese imho, not even in the same league. Charlize for me anyday

well I'm waiting eagerly by the phone today for a call to say they've been delivered to the shop and I can go and collect them... I've got the week off too so I'm really excited Class One - you should go for it! Worth checking out the electronic drum kits though these days, they really are very very good now. More versatile and neighbour friendly for practicing and for me the biggest thing is to be able to hook them up to Cubase using midi, play my library of sampled kits and sounds and record them live into my songs

have a good flight

ahhh but the hardware may be different now and the ini file now doesn't match?

oh I guess then there is probably an ini file for the software, probably containing the wrong settings...