garethr Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I had trouble accessing TIF over the weekend. Have you tried making another post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 Yeah tried it twice. I don't really want to pay the £25 membership as just doing my homework at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Nearly everything is accessible without paying. There's a first post from an Aussie in the "Allo Allo" section at 9:03 today, and if they are allowed in ...... I've created a thread entitled "Hello from jamesmark" in "Allo Allo". Post a reply and take a screen shot, and if the post doesn't appear I'll contact admin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 It appears to have posted, same for you? Just cannot post new threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 My wife had a 2.5 TT one for a year and just loved it, she had a 928 before, the Soarer made it feel old fashioned and slow, and was a lot more reliable. Build quality is stunning, parts are available, both maintenance and tuning wise. The short stroke 1JZ-GTE is an absolute gem and makes the 2JZ-GTE feel like the long stroke lazy git it is. Like BMW Toyota defiled a gem when making an earlier engine bigger by upping the stroke. I bought a high mileage Soarer 2.5 TT privately 2 years ago for 900 pounds, there was nothing wrong with it save the heater wasn't working, electrically. A poor phone install had eventually grounded a feed wire to the heater system resulting in permanently blowing fuses, and was easily fixed. It had 12 months MOT, too. You should easily find one sub 1500 these days. The fancy self adjusting damping is iffy and expensive to fix (very expensive actually...), but you can retro fit normal dampers. A lot of the running gear is similar to the MKIV's. Lag is virtually none existent, despite the twin turbos being none sequential. The V8's are a lot lot heavier, slower, and feel tank like. They also drink fuel and are hard to work on. In practical terms the V8's aren't tunable. Pics of the 900 quid one, as bought, after a home valet at: ftp://ftp.chriswilson.tv/soarer The guy who bought it, de catted it and drove it hard for months afterwards, despite its 198K miles, and it didn't blow up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 Cheers Chris very helpful. So my plan to put my 2JZ engine in a Soarer (when I break my TT) is not really worth while and would serve little gain? I would not be going single on either engine but a solid BPU possible hybrids and thats it. Going to conentrate more on looks rather than power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 A stock 2.5 TT. de catted, goes very well, and has probably LESS lag than a sequential 3 litre 2JZ-GTE. Have you driven one? The 2.5 is VERY tunable if you want more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Well it really depends on what you want. I did the Soarer version of BPU with mine and was getting a dynoed 335rwhp, with a rediculas power graph, it was near vertical. See these links.... http://www.toyotaimportsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3834 That is the story of me slowly modding it, and the dyno graphs are here.... http://www.toyotaimportsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=6865 At the end of the day, there is alot of power waiting to be tapped, it is as easy as it is on the 2JZ, you just dont get quite as much due to the smaller displacement. If you go single, as long as you stay in the smaller turbo relms then you will not have too much lag, mine is an HKS 30/37s and there is not much more lag than standard but alot more power. There seems to be a hek of alot of modded ones in Japan, I did hear that they prefered to mod them than Supra's but that is just hearsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 and the Aussie forums http://soarercentral.com http://www.lexusaustralia.org Forgot Planet Soarer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 See these links.... http://www.toyotaimportsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3834 That is the story of me slowly modding it, and the dyno graphs are here.... http://www.toyotaimportsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=6865 You have to register to see those links?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 If you go single, as long as you stay in the smaller turbo relms then you will not have too much lag, mine is an HKS 30/37s and there is not much more lag than standard but alot more power. . Going for a smaller single on the Soarer what BHP do you get from that, do they have the same issues to the supra? do not go to mad or you will bust the box? My plan was just a good strong BPU but if its pointless putting the 2JZ in it then I can use the money from selling that to go single. Oh I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 It is the same on the auto box, it can be made a little stronger, new valve body and shimes (which I have done both to mine) and it sorts out the shifting problem.(Cos it is a 'luxury' car Toyota decided to make the ecu retard the ignition brfore changing, and when you mod it this retardation causis missfires and makes it sound like it is farting!) As long as you keep the engine under 500 is it ok. I am putting out around the 370rwhp, and the turbo is rated to 480 at the engine. But it can cost alot to get it there, as I say, it all depends on what you want at the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 Was speaking to an accident repair centre that told me to avoid them like the plauge as he has had to write off three Soarers as they are so exsensive for parts, as in OTT. Kinda putting me off if it is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 The price of parts are not really in comparison with the price of the cars. That is true, but mainly due to the under valuing of the car themselfs. You can buy one for around £1500, that will be ok, or will be a complete old slaaaaag, and again spend £3.5 to 4 for the same result. I insure with Sky and have an agreed value, so if something does happen the car will not be written of by some faceless clerk because on his bit of paper it is only worth 'market value', but instead value it the same as I do and worth a wee bit more! The market is very deflated, you can pick up a really fantastic car for a steal, the down side is the price of replacements parts. The upside is the Toyota/Lexus ledgendary reliability. I have had one for 5 years, and had to swap my Sup for it, as I needed a boot for work and the Sup didnt have one. I dont regret it and havent looked back since. In all that time, I have replaced a water pump, and the air con pump. The other £12k I spent on it was to make it more 'personal' to me! 375rwhp personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 Been reading through this again as an option, apart from Chris Wilson's post re the V8 there aint much info been said on them. Not to fussed on the "tuneable" factor at the moment. So anyone got anything on the V8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 It drinks fuel, but is basically a lovely engine, but is no smoother than the straight six, and has less power and low end torque. I don't see the point, especially when they are mega expensive to tune, and the V8's have gizmos that don't work in the UK anyway, like factory sat nav, and the TV tuner. removing a V8, or even working on it in situ, is tricky, they are a tight old fit. If you drive an early Lexus LS400 you will know what a V8 Soarer is like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 I will be honest petrol consumption does not interest me as the mileage that I will be doing will not be much. Also the fact of the V8 is the "I own a V8" childish I know lol. However like what you said Chris one thing that does concern me is cost of repairs (not running costs) if anything major goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 i drove the 2.5 twin turbo manual the guys at knightracer have. I was impressed. The dorrs are about twice the weight of the supras though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 If anything major goes wrong with either model the costs could far outweigh the value of the car. Buying a 13 year old car that probably cost the equivalent of 45K + new is never going to be kind to the wallet if it throws a tantrum. C'est la vie. Probably swings and roundabouts on which would POTENTIALLY cost less to fix. V8 has no turbos, but 48 valves and a LOAD of wiring and plumbing. Straight six has 2 less cylinders, but 2 turbos to potentially wear out, and an I/C that's probably already knackered. TT may have had more abuse, V8 will probably have more miles under its belt. For some reason the V8's I see always always look like they've had a heavy haircut. I guess the buying market for them new were business men who racked up hefty mileages, but the cars still looked tidy, hence ripe for clocking. TT is FAR more fun though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 Cheers Chris, bloody doing my head in all this engine types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 there is a 3.0l model with basically the supra NA engine........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 ....the V8's have gizmos that don't work in the UK anyway, like factory sat nav, and the TV tuner..... Yeah - this unit is pretty much identical to the MkII Aristo. There's a guy in Bournemouth called Luke (runs the soarer.tv website) who can do a full conversion to UK sat nav, but it will cost ££££. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 I must admit I do like it!!!! Maybe not in white though. http://www.do-luck.co.uk/images2/jzz303.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Three V8s: UZZ30 -- coil suspension, cloth, no EMV (touch screen), lightest and quickest, rare UZZ31 -- air suspension, leather, usually (but not always) EMV, the most common UZZ32 -- hydraulic active suspension, EMV, 873 made, you can count on the fingers of one hand the people (in the UK and Oz) who know about the suspension 260 bhp, not easy to mod for more power, all auto. The noise (although this one's converted to manual) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damientt Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 If you want to want to buy a Soarer have a look here ... http://http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=127492 You won't get a better one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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